Author Topic: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies  (Read 8314 times)

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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2011, 07:53:30 PM »
the only time I train heavy is when I have to go off for a few weeks

like right now

I do less volume and I keep the weights heavy for less sets and reps

seems to help retain muscle better than if I continued with the supersets I do when I am on a cycle

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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2011, 07:59:21 PM »
the only time I train heavy is when I have to go off for a few weeks

like right now

I do less volume and I keep the weights heavy for less sets and reps

seems to help retain muscle better than if I continued with the supersets I do when I am on a cycle


Yes, training heavy (with sense, of course!) works better for "natties", if you are off you can't build muscle on light weights, different story when you're on gear.

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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2011, 08:04:31 PM »

Yes, training heavy (with sense, of course!) works better for "natties", if you are off you can't build muscle on light weights, different story when you're on gear.

exactly

I still still lose muscle but I am only off for 2 months, usually I can retain pretty much everything but month 3 and 4 off gear are a disaster and usually by month 5 I look like Fatpanda


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Re: ANTOINE VAILLANT TRAINING SHOULDERS WITH BUDDIES
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2011, 08:28:42 PM »
whats that exercise they are doing second? leteral cleans ::)

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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2011, 08:46:53 PM »
in the new flex phil heath states that most guys can't do side laterals with 25lb db with a 2 sec pause at the top for reps...makes sense with great form how many of us truely can? sure i can throw up 70's or 80's but why? besides looking stupid it does nothing for muscle. the shoulder joint is to delicate.not worth the risk of injury
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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2011, 09:21:50 PM »
in the new flex phil heath states that most guys can't do side laterals with 25lb db with a 2 sec pause at the top for reps...makes sense with great form how many of us truely can? sure i can throw up 70's or 80's but why? besides looking stupid it does nothing for muscle. the shoulder joint is to delicate.not worth the risk of injury

Evan Centopani has the sickest delts and he said on the MD board that nobody have any business doing lateral raise with dumbells heavier than 50 lbs


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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2011, 09:33:06 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2011, 03:06:35 AM »
Evan Centopani has the sickest delts and he said on the MD board that nobody have any business doing lateral raise with dumbells heavier than 50 lbs


Centopani would love to have a glass gym with glass dumbells and a hand sanitizer machine in every corner.

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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2011, 05:43:04 AM »
Centopani would love to have a glass gym with glass dumbells and a hand sanitizer machine in every corner.


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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2011, 06:31:45 AM »
Now it's all moderately heavy weights with controlled reps. The mind-muscle connection is way more important if you're lifting respectable weights.
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Re: Antoine Vaillant Training Shoulders with buddies
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2011, 06:43:54 AM »
Never seen shittier side laterals (and I've seen a lotta Pro DVDs and worked out in a lotta gyms full of idiots)

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Re: ANTOINE VAILLANT TRAINING SHOULDERS WITH BUDDIES
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2011, 07:04:40 AM »
hey that's the quebec bodybuilding click  8)

the tall guy won the quebec provincial this year



Excellent physique!!

In that pic he looks better than all of the Mr Olympia line up.