Author Topic: The "Old Days"?  (Read 3485 times)

buselmo

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Re: The "Old Days"?
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2012, 03:31:36 AM »
bad things.
I have been involved in the online AAS world for 12 years now, and every 4-5 years it
seems that big busts go down all at once (ORD, gear grinder, etc). Info about it seems
to leak shortly before things go down, and I notice this same pattern happening right now.....
good sources going private at a higher rate than normal, different suppliers taking vacations,
then saying they're going to stop, take a break, and then come back again (hesitating, wanting
to keep doing business but clearly afraid of what is to come). I notice more boards going private,
or only allowing international source discussion.

I have also just heard through the grapevine that 'big things are coming'.
Could just be rumors, but I don't think so. Law enforcement like to just sit back, let everyone
feel comfortable, and watch everyone get loose and start making mistakes.... then they rush in
for the big busts. Just look at SSB.... that was a trainwreck waiting to happen. People were openly
advertising, everyone was acting like this stuff was perfectly legal. Customers were expecting
instant service like a fast food joint, competing labs were dropping prices and improving quality; it
really started showing signs of a legitimate business, not a prohibition type thing where you are just
lucky to have it and there is very little price competition.

After Raw Deal, everyone got paranoid and started acting like they did when steroids were really
demonized in the early 90's. Secure emails, lots of references, needed to have a strong presence on
the boards to prove you were in the game for a while, etc. Over time, you can just see how comfortable
people get. More open source posting, more classified/trade forums opening up for personal use dealing,
etc. This sort of stuff must be a field day for LE. They don't even have to work. They can just start
ordering from a source and bust them right there.

People always seem to forget that these are schedule III drugs in the good old USA. Very serious business,
and in my personal opinion, you should NEVER be advertising openly or dealing with anyone you don't
really know well at all. Promuscle is just mind boggling to me.... those suppliers are either desperate, dumb,
or have balls of steel.... posting their scheduled drugs for sale to a board with thousands of members,
and willing to deal with whoever has their email address, which is conveniently posted right there in the
open for whoever wants it.

For those that don't really get the whole scheduled drug thing, this may help put it into perspective.....
ketamine and vicodin are schedule III drugs.
Imagine going to the 'pain forum' where everyone discusses pain and ways of reducing it, and the way they
use their painkilling drugs to effectively manage their pain. Imagine these forums being all over the net,
with thousands of members, and hundreds of sources that sell the painkillers.
Wouldn't that be insane? email addresses listed publicly, guys that will sell you as much vicodin as you want,
no questions asked?

That is essentially what steroids boards with classifieds are doing. Law enforcement would have no problem
picking up an order of vicodin and busting these guys for being drug dealers.
In the eyes of federal law, steroids are the same exact thing. People lose sight of that so frequently because
they don't feel like they are doing hard drugs.


people in the US... read this post... read it again... then read it 20 other times til it fucking sinks your thick skull... I swear if i was living in the states, i'd quite gear. easier to have fun smoking weed and getting drunk all weekend without worrying about shit! LOL

whitewidow

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Re: The "Old Days"?
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2012, 08:00:21 PM »
bad things.
I have been involved in the online AAS world for 12 years now, and every 4-5 years it
seems that big busts go down all at once (ORD, gear grinder, etc). Info about it seems
to leak shortly before things go down, and I notice this same pattern happening right now.....
good sources going private at a higher rate than normal, different suppliers taking vacations,
then saying they're going to stop, take a break, and then come back again (hesitating, wanting
to keep doing business but clearly afraid of what is to come). I notice more boards going private,
or only allowing international source discussion.

I have also just heard through the grapevine that 'big things are coming'.
Could just be rumors, but I don't think so. Law enforcement like to just sit back, let everyone
feel comfortable, and watch everyone get loose and start making mistakes.... then they rush in
for the big busts. Just look at SSB.... that was a trainwreck waiting to happen. People were openly
advertising, everyone was acting like this stuff was perfectly legal. Customers were expecting
instant service like a fast food joint, competing labs were dropping prices and improving quality; it
really started showing signs of a legitimate business, not a prohibition type thing where you are just
lucky to have it and there is very little price competition.

After Raw Deal, everyone got paranoid and started acting like they did when steroids were really
demonized in the early 90's. Secure emails, lots of references, needed to have a strong presence on
the boards to prove you were in the game for a while, etc. Over time, you can just see how comfortable
people get. More open source posting, more classified/trade forums opening up for personal use dealing,
etc. This sort of stuff must be a field day for LE. They don't even have to work. They can just start
ordering from a source and bust them right there.

People always seem to forget that these are schedule III drugs in the good old USA. Very serious business,
and in my personal opinion, you should NEVER be advertising openly or dealing with anyone you don't
really know well at all. Promuscle is just mind boggling to me.... those suppliers are either desperate, dumb,
or have balls of steel.... posting their scheduled drugs for sale to a board with thousands of members,
and willing to deal with whoever has their email address, which is conveniently posted right there in the
open for whoever wants it.

For those that don't really get the whole scheduled drug thing, this may help put it into perspective.....
ketamine and vicodin are schedule III drugs.
Imagine going to the 'pain forum' where everyone discusses pain and ways of reducing it, and the way they
use their painkilling drugs to effectively manage their pain. Imagine these forums being all over the net,
with thousands of members, and hundreds of sources that sell the painkillers.
Wouldn't that be insane? email addresses listed publicly, guys that will sell you as much vicodin as you want,
no questions asked?

That is essentially what steroids boards with classifieds are doing. Law enforcement would have no problem
picking up an order of vicodin and busting these guys for being drug dealers.
In the eyes of federal law, steroids are the same exact thing. People lose sight of that so frequently because
they don't feel like they are doing hard drugs.


comparing steroids to ketamine or vicoden? that is just silly! with ketamine can get in a K -Hole and die and with vicoden you can get addicted and if you run out go through some horrible withdrawals. steroids do not make you go through withdrawals. comparing AAS to painkillers is stupid! painkillers should be scheduled  but not AAS. Its to bad AAS are scedule 3 drugs but it is wrong comparing them to dangerous drugs like ketamine wich is a animal tranquilizer and a addictive pain-killer like vicoden! I don't even see why they scheduled steroids at all. It is not like they get you high or they would cause withdrawal symptoms if you quite. the whole roid rage thing is a myth. some people may get roid rage on tren or halotestin but that also depends on the person taking it. most people are not going to experince roid rage. so scheduling steroids is just another way for the government to make money. If you are 21 and over I think you should be allowed to buy steroids. by scheduling AAS the government created the need for a black market that is where all the UGL's come into play.