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A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« on: March 19, 2012, 08:40:54 PM »
For those that are still against Romney, please watch this Dick Morris video with an open mind.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2012, 08:46:10 PM »
Im voting rp in Ny primary, ABO in the general.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2012, 08:49:58 PM »
75% of republicans don't like Romney.

I know they want the comfort of choosing a candidate, but rushing to pick one that the majority of the GOP votes AGAINST is a terrible idea.  This enthusiasm gap for a moderate was VERY clear in 2008, when 18% of GOP voters from 2004 just plain stayed home.  Even though obama had Rev wright, etc... 1 in 5 repub voters just didn't bother!

If repubs hate obama THAT bad, it won't matter if they pick a guy now, or 2 months from now.

Really, Morris should be telling NEWT to get out of the race.  If newt woudl nominate Santorum, then Santorum would probably win the nomination.  Sure he's a psycho and a zealout, but that's damn good tv.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2012, 08:59:27 PM »
75% of republicans don't like Romney.

I know they want the comfort of choosing a candidate, but rushing to pick one that the majority of the GOP votes AGAINST is a terrible idea.  This enthusiasm gap for a moderate was VERY clear in 2008, when 18% of GOP voters from 2004 just plain stayed home.  Even though obama had Rev wright, etc... 1 in 5 repub voters just didn't bother!

If repubs hate obama THAT bad, it won't matter if they pick a guy now, or 2 months from now.

Really, Morris should be telling NEWT to get out of the race.  If newt woudl nominate Santorum, then Santorum would probably win the nomination.  Sure he's a psycho and a zealout, but that's damn good tv.

240, where are you getting those statistics? How the hell do you know that 75% of the GOP doesnt like Romney? If that's true, why is he winning by a million votes? McCain got MORE conservatives than Bush did in 2004. COnservatives came out for McCain. He just couldnt get enough of the moderates.

At this point, Romney has this in the bag even if Newt gets out. Maybe if Newt had gotten out earlier that  wouldnt be the case. BUt not anymore.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2012, 09:04:55 PM »
240, where are you getting those statistics? How the hell do you know that 75% of the GOP doesnt like Romney? If that's true, why is he winning by a million votes? McCain got MORE conservatives than Bush did in 2004. COnservatives came out for McCain. He just couldnt get enough of the moderates.

At this point, Romney has this in the bag even if Newt gets out. Maybe if Newt had gotten out earlier that  wouldnt be the case. BUt not anymore.

I know that romney was polling at 29% or so for the last year - pretty clear sign that 3/4 of the party doesn't like him.
Pretty common konwledge that 18% of the GOP 04 ovoters skipped 2008.  Either palin's ignorance or mccain's RINOism. 

I dont know that romney having it 'in the bag' is a good thing.  He's outspending Santorum 6-to-1 and squeaking out wins.  He will NOT have a 6-to-1 money adcantage over obama ;)

IMO, if newt gets out, it's a brokered convention, and maybe it's a Santorum/Romney ticket, or maybe a Jeb/ROmney ticket.  Romney is young - he can do his time then try to run as VP. But in this political climate, him acting like a conservative just isn't geniuine.


And to be fair, repubs defended morons like cain or trump for the last year.  They really need to know when to call a dog a dog, and just dismiss a candidate.  Romney isn't what they believe him.  He's underachieving against santorum.  let that convention choose Jeb+Romney and destroy obama.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2012, 09:33:23 PM »
Yep, he is outspending Satorum 6 to 1 AND he is winning by a million votes.

THere is no chance of a brokered convention. THere is no way in hell these candidates are going to let someone else come in and take the nomination. Not after having 20 fucking debates and the first proportional delegate nominating process. That would be a disaster for the GOP and the right wing talk show hosts who keep drumming up that silly thought are pissing me off.

There is a bit of a chance of a contested convention, but the math doesnt even support that.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 01:51:57 AM »
Media has real problem with Romney.  I don't get why he didn't make it last time.  He is almost flawless canddiate.  Massive success and not too bible crazy like Santorum.  I think Ron Paul would make best president.  I don't get why media won't give Romney his due, he has been massively ahead for weeks now and thee media acts like Santorum is about to catch him.  I wonder if it is because everyone knows he will nuke Obama in a debate.  I think 80% of republicans love Romney.  I don't get these weird stats claiming people don't like him.  Weird.  The health care thing is easily explained: States are allowed to experiment and the feds can't do it because any power not in the constitution falls to the states!! Duh!! basic 8th grade government class stuff that most democrats simply ignore in thier mad grasp for power.  I think the population will vote heavily to move away from the failed obama communist/fascist experiment.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 02:50:34 AM »
Also, Mass. wanted it. When you are governor of a deep blue state, you cant govern the way you can in Texas. Romney balanced the budget in Mass. without raising tax rates. His record in Mass. is more conservative than Reagan's record in California.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 08:48:41 AM »
75% of republicans don't like Romney.

I know they want the comfort of choosing a candidate, but rushing to pick one that the majority of the GOP votes AGAINST is a terrible idea.  This enthusiasm gap for a moderate was VERY clear in 2008, when 18% of GOP voters from 2004 just plain stayed home.  Even though obama had Rev wright, etc... 1 in 5 repub voters just didn't bother!

If repubs hate obama THAT bad, it won't matter if they pick a guy now, or 2 months from now.

Really, Morris should be telling NEWT to get out of the race.  If newt woudl nominate Santorum, then Santorum would probably win the nomination.  Sure he's a psycho and a zealout, but that's damn good tv.
Kill yourself.
The nation hanging in the balance is not "good TV" for anyone with any sort of brain.
Yes, I know you just trolled me, but cmon. I would hope anyone that actually wanted Santorum because its good TV to kill themselves.
Youre either saying you care more about entertainment than about what he would do to the country, or that you want Obama to win cause you feel Santorum is weaker. Either way, go die in a fire.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 08:50:45 AM »
75% of republicans don't like Romney.

I know they want the comfort of choosing a candidate, but rushing to pick one that the majority of the GOP votes AGAINST is a terrible idea.  This enthusiasm gap for a moderate was VERY clear in 2008, when 18% of GOP voters from 2004 just plain stayed home.  Even though obama had Rev wright, etc... 1 in 5 repub voters just didn't bother!

If repubs hate obama THAT bad, it won't matter if they pick a guy now, or 2 months from now.

Really, Morris should be telling NEWT to get out of the race.  If newt woudl nominate Santorum, then Santorum would probably win the nomination.  Sure he's a psycho and a zealout, but that's damn good tv.

So all those polls showing Romney beating or running even with Obama mean what then? That a lot of Dems like him? Not looking good for your God-King if he's polling over 50% with only 25% of his base supporting him.  :-X

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 11:30:40 AM »
Kill yourself.
The nation hanging in the balance is not "good TV" for anyone with any sort of brain.
Yes, I know you just trolled me, but cmon. I would hope anyone that actually wanted Santorum because its good TV to kill themselves.
Youre either saying you care more about entertainment than about what he would do to the country, or that you want Obama to win cause you feel Santorum is weaker. Either way, go die in a fire.

my point is that jeb would DESTROY obama in the general election.

But I feel that romney is a very weak candidate - no one can deny the base dislikes him.  nobody can deny he's underperformed against lightweight jokes like gingrich and santorum.  He's outspending them 5 to 1, and bragging about how he won puerto rico?  WTF?  He essential tied his homestate michigan in the middle of a great depression - and his whole platform is that he's the business guy.

obama will clean romney's clock.  But santorum - he's a little nuts, a littel fearless.  He'll punch a podium or tell obama to shut up.  he will.  Romney is too fake and, frankly, scared.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 11:36:11 AM »
Just wait until all Romney has to do is nuke Obama.....this shit is all a side show and I'm in the "what doesn't kill you camp" as far as the primary season. Romney needs a solid short answert on Romneycare...after that its attack Barry 24/7. Barry has run away from barrycare/bail outs/energy and he's fucked up Afghanistan...there's war looming in Iran and he has only Repubs backing him, Syria is a friggen mess and Egypt.....its 1979/1980 all over again.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2012, 11:42:54 AM »
Romney definitely has the ability to sway me... I would leap in a voting booth for Ron Paul based on his libertarian leanings.

Santorum and Newt have almost no chance to get my vote.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2012, 11:44:15 AM »
Just wait until all Romney has to do is nuke Obama.....this shit is all a side show and I'm in the "what doesn't kill you camp" as far as the primary season. Romney needs a solid short answert on Romneycare...after that its attack Barry 24/7. Barry has run away from barrycare/bail outs/energy and he's fucked up Afghanistan...there's war looming in Iran and he has only Repubs backing him, Syria is a friggen mess and Egypt.....its 1979/1980 all over again.

Are you old enough to remember 1979?

I was 4/5

I don't remember any of that shit... I just read about it.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2012, 11:46:14 AM »
Mitt Romney = Barack Obama = Newt Gingrich = Hilary Clinton = Rick Santorum

All of these POLITICIANS will increase spending, increase the national debt, and bleed this country to death in red ink.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2012, 01:16:24 PM »
Mitt Romney = Barack Obama = Newt Gingrich = Hilary Clinton = Rick Santorum

All of these POLITICIANS will increase spending, increase the national debt, and bleed this country to death in red ink.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2012, 03:43:58 PM »
Media has real problem with Romney.  I don't get why he didn't make it last time.  He is almost flawless canddiate.  Massive success and not too bible crazy like Santorum.  I think Ron Paul would make best president.  I don't get why media won't give Romney his due, he has been massively ahead for weeks now and thee media acts like Santorum is about to catch him.  I wonder if it is because everyone knows he will nuke Obama in a debate.  I think 80% of republicans love Romney.  I don't get these weird stats claiming people don't like him.  Weird.  The health care thing is easily explained: States are allowed to experiment and the feds can't do it because any power not in the constitution falls to the states!! Duh!! basic 8th grade government class stuff that most democrats simply ignore in thier mad grasp for power.  I think the population will vote heavily to move away from the failed obama communist/fascist experiment.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-24-2012/indecision-2012---i-know-what-you-did-last-quarter

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2012, 03:50:24 PM »
Just wait until all Romney has to do is nuke Obama.....this shit is all a side show and I'm in the "what doesn't kill you camp" as far as the primary season. Romney needs a solid short answert on Romneycare...after that its attack Barry 24/7. Barry has run away from barrycare/bail outs/energy and he's fucked up Afghanistan...there's war looming in Iran and he has only Repubs backing him, Syria is a friggen mess and Egypt.....its 1979/1980 all over again.

How has he fucked up Afghanistan?

What do you want to do different in Syria? or Egypt?

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2012, 03:51:05 PM »
Mitt Romney = Barack Obama = Newt Gingrich = Hilary Clinton = Rick Santorum

All of these POLITICIANS will increase spending, increase the national debt, and bleed this country to death in red ink.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2012, 03:54:50 PM »
already voted for Ron. 

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2012, 12:23:40 AM »
Well it looks like members of Romney's own family want Obama as president by your reckoning, because 6 of them have come out in support of Ron Paul.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2012, 04:28:31 AM »
Well it looks like members of Romney's own family want Obama as president by your reckoning, because 6 of them have come out in support of Ron Paul.

 :D

Well they should how anyone can vote for flip-flop Romney is beyond me.

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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2012, 06:07:02 AM »
Dick Morris is a giant douche.  Liar, traitor, turncoat, just trying to increase book sales. 

Romney=Obama=Hillary=Newt all the same.  We will get more of what we deserve.
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Re: A Vote against Romney in Primary is Vote for Obama
« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2012, 06:59:46 AM »
Dick Morris is a giant douche.  Liar, traitor, turncoat, just trying to increase book sales. 

Romney=Obama=Hillary=Newt all the same.  We will get more of what we deserve.

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