I dont believe in supps..i believe in food,its how i was taught.By my bro,who actually is a member here for quiet a few years... But i take what i take due to the fact, 1, im not made of money and 2 cant always stpp amd eat as much as i should or want to..my job makes that hard,being i work in for a emergency gas construction utility comp. so i try to use some basic supps to jelp make up for what i may miss.