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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #175 on: December 17, 2012, 06:18:52 PM »
That's because unlike Gun ownership, Cars serve a community benefit, everyone benefits from cars, trucks and the road transport system.  Guns serve an individuals selfish drives, that's it.  When considering laws citizens take into consideration the HARM VS GOOD to the Community ratio,  Guns cause more harm than good, where as CARS don't.  See the difference!

The man has a point.

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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #176 on: December 17, 2012, 07:12:30 PM »
That's because unlike Gun ownership, Cars serve a community benefit, everyone benefits from cars, trucks and the road transport system.  Guns serve an individuals selfish drives, that's it.  When considering laws citizens take into consideration the HARM VS GOOD to the Community ratio,  Guns cause more harm than good, where as CARS don't.  See the difference!
hahaha so many idiotic comments where to begin????

so your assertion is that guns only serve selfish drives eh? Well nobody else benefits from my truck, I dont benefit from anybody elses vehicle either. How is someone elses vehicle benefiting me? The roads would be there regardless as thats the job of the govt.

The job of the govt is not to take away guns, as a matter of fact it is specifically stated that the govt is not to do that...

My guns could be used to help many individuals outside of myself. My family and friends all have the ability to benefit from my guns...

And finally the biggest problem with your ignorance. Who determines whats the balance of whats good vs. harm?

The govt?????????

I deem the ability to defend myself, family and possesions a VERY VERY GOOD THING!!!

I dont think a few isolated incidents as horrible as they are reasons to take away my ability to defend myself, family and property.

Fact is taking away guns wont solve the problem b/c its not addressing the problem. Its addressing the expression of the problem. The expression will just find another form especially in instances like the school shooting.

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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #177 on: March 18, 2013, 11:34:26 AM »
Revealed: Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza created chilling 7-foot 'score sheet' documenting past mass murders

 Connecticut State Police found document when searching his home
 It contained Lanza's obsessive research about mass murders of the past
 Lanza killed 26 people at Sandy Hook - including 20 children in 1st grade

 


By Leon Watson
 
PUBLISHED:06:37 EST, 18 March 2013| UPDATED: 08:16 EST, 18 March 2013
 
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The Connecticut State Police investigation into Adam Lanza's killing spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School has revealed that he studied other mass killings from around the world intently
 
Adam Lanza planned his Sandy Hook massacre in meticulous detail on a chilling 7ft long spreadsheet that police believe was used to keep score of killings, it was revealed today.

 
Connecticut State Police found the 4ft wide document in Lanza's harddrive that was so big it required a special printer after the December 14 attack that left 26 people dead.
 
It contained Lanza’s obsessive research - in nine-point font - about mass murders of the past, and even attempted murders.
 
Among the tragedies Lanza studied were the 2006 mass shooting carried out by Charles Carl Robert IV in which he killed five Amish school girls as well as the 2011 massacre of 77 people in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik.
 
Investigators revealed they have found reams of articles about multiple shootings, leading them to speculate he intended to outdo them all.
 
Police have also discovered evidence that Lanza became extremely efficient in his mastery of his AR-15 Bushmaster assault rifle - leading them believe he had been planning his assault for a long time.

 
Officers outlined the findings at the International Association of Police Chiefs and Colonels mid-year meeting in New Orleans last week, a law enforcement veteran told the New York Daily News.

 
According to the officer: 'We were told (Lanza) had around 500 people on this sheet. Names and the number of people killed and the weapons that were used, even the precise make and model of the weapons.
 
'It had to have taken years. It sounded like a doctoral thesis, that was the quality of the research.
 
'They don't believe this was just a spreadsheet. They believe it was a score sheet,' he continued. 'This was the work of a video gamer, and that it was his intent to put his own name at the very top of that list.
 


 
 

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'They believe that he picked an elementary school because he felt it was a point of least resistance, where he could rack up the greatest number of kills. That's what (the Connecticut police) believe.
 
'They believe that (Lanza) believed that it was the way to pick up the easiest points. It's why he didn't want to be killed by law enforcement.
 
'In the code of a gamer, even a deranged gamer like this little bastard, if somebody else kills you, they get your points. They believe that's why he killed himself.'
 







Victoria Soto, 27, (left) is shown in this undated handout photo was one of six adults killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School along with Principal Dawn Hochsprung (right)
 



Connecticut State Police lead a line of children from the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown on Friday, Dec. 14, 2012 after Adam Lanza opened fire killing 20 1st graders
 

Tragedy: A woman waits to hear about her sister following the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut in December
 
Lanza's killing spree lasted less than five minutes and during that time he fired 152 bullets into two classrooms in the Connecticut elementary school.

 
Lanza also had hundreds more rounds of ammunition on him and in the car that he drove to the school in.
 
Arriving at Sandy Hook Elementary School at 9.35 a.m., Lanza, 20, shot through the glass windows at the school entrance and immediately encountered Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach, who had been alerted by the gunfire.

 
He shot them both to death on sight. Two teachers were also injured by ricocheting bullets from that initial burst of gunfire.
 
One had been in the school's meeting room with Hochsprung and Scherlach and was wounded in the leg.


The other was further down the hallway outside her classroom after rushing out on hearing the shots and was hit in the foot.

 





Police investigating the home of Adam Lanza in Sandy Hook Connecticut have uncovered a dossier regarding every mass murder inside and outside of the United States that he had compiled
 


The member of staff who had been shot in the leg managed to crawl and call the police, which explains the rapid response time of law enforcement to the school.

 
Continuing down the corridor it was then that Lanza apparently walked by the classroom of Kaitlin Roig, who had closed her classroom door on hearing the gunfire.
 
The school had recently performed a practice lockdown drill and the black construction paper that had been put up on the door had been left there - leading Lanza to think the classroom was empty.
 
Roig and her class, sat in petrified silence while they heard Lanza continue past their door.

 
Lanza then walked into the classroom of substitute teacher Lauren Rousseau to find her and the terrified children huddled together at the back of the room trying to hide in a bathroom.
 

The deranged shooter killed Rousseau and all but one of her class.

 
The little girl escaped by playing dead and emerged from the school with her clothes covered in blood saying, 'Mommy, I'm okay, but all my friends are dead.'

 

Before he set off on his killing spree - Adam Lanza shot his mother Nancy in the face while she slept and then took the assault rifles she kept in a vault in their home
 












Adam Lanza studied the 2006 mass shooting carried out by Charles Carl Robert IV (left) in which he killed five Amish school girls as well as the 2011 massacre of 77 people in Norway by Anders Behring Breivik (right)
 

A search and rescue team boat passes by covered bodies of victims from the summer school meeting organised by the ruling Labour Party on Utoeya, on July 23, 2011 after Breiviks shooting spree
 


She was the only survivor from a class of 16.

 
When asked by her parents what she saw, the unnamed girl said she saw someone who was 'angry' and 'very mad.'

 
According to the unnamed source familiar with the report, Lanza then walked back towards teacher Victoria Soto's class and upon entering encountered children cowering under their desks.

 
He fatally shot these students along with Soto and then dramatically his assault rifle jammed - allowing six children from the class to escape out of the classroom while he reloaded.
 
Unknown to Lanza, Soto had placed five children in a closet before he entered and opened fire and they were found unharmed after authorities arrived.

 
Authorities have also dispelled the theory that Lanza was shooting at police as they arrived.

 
Despite bullets being fired out of the school as police rushed up the drive to the school, investigators now believe that Lanza was firing at a teacher who was standing by a window.

 
Realizing that police were closing in, Lanza then turned one of the two pistols he was carrying on himself less than five minutes after he began his killing spree and just as police were entering the building.

 
State police have periodically updated the victims' families as the investigation has unfolded. Danbury State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky has said he hopes that the final report on the massacre will be published  by the end of June.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2295164/Sandy-Hook-shooter-Adam-Lanza-created-meticulous-7ft-long-spreadsheet-detailing-massacres-past-wanted-outdo.html#ixzz2NuxVDG00
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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #178 on: March 18, 2013, 01:16:09 PM »

Yes, We Should Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting

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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #179 on: March 18, 2013, 01:18:55 PM »
"...the killer fed his obsession with violence by keeping meticulous records about mass murderers for years."
 
"The New York Daily News reports investigators discovered, 'a chilling spreadsheet 7 feet long and 4 feet wide that required a special printer, a document that contained Lanza’s obsessive, extensive research — in nine-point font — about mass murders of the past, and even attempted murders.'"
 
"...the giant spreadsheet was actually a "score sheet" and that Lanza, an avid video game player, hoped his attack would put his name at the top of the list of killers."
 

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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #180 on: March 18, 2013, 01:21:28 PM »
The man has a point.

Not really... Guns have a community benefit... Since 1776.

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Re: Yes, We SHOULD Politicize the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting
« Reply #181 on: March 18, 2013, 01:29:16 PM »


Caught lying.