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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2013, 09:59:30 AM »
a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.



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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2013, 01:49:31 PM »
tell her to shave her face and body hair , if she's like most of the greek women i've met that should take off 10lb or so right there  ;D

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2013, 01:59:49 PM »
spices and recipie for sautéing please.

I usually bake garlicnand herb chicken, or use a pre made bbq dry rub.... but I need to change shit up.  Getting bored.

wtf, why did my pic get all stretched out and rotated... lol.

If you can find a target which has a food section, look for their "archer farms" brand spice blends.  Archer farms is target's "premium" in-house brand, so I don't think you can find it anywhere else, but their spice blends are great, imo.  For this particular batch, I used the blends "House Blend", "French Bistro", and "Stone Ground Mustard" blends.

My "recipe" is more about convenience than anything, this 3lbs of meat took me about 40 minutes to prepare:

1.  Slice breast very thin at an angle.  This is the most time consuming part.  Using thighs is actually better, because you can cut them into thin strips more easily and quickly.
2.  Dump all the chicken into a bowl.  Pour olive oil in until its glistening (not swimming), and dump the spices in.  Not too much, not too little.  Mix around with hands to until the spices are evenly distributed.
3.  Get a THICK non-stick very hot, with just a little olive oil.  Must use something high quality, like hard-anodized aluminum.  For this amount of meat, I actually got my stainless steel pan going at the same time.
4.  Coat the bottom of the pan with chicken (don't layer it up or it will steam, instead of saute).  Don't touch it until almost all of the pink has disappeared.  If you cut the chicken thin enough, then, at this point, the bottom will be nicely carmelized.  Flip the chicken around with tongs or w/e and let the other side cook.  Rinse and repeat until you've cooked every batch.
5.  Plate some chicken/broccoli, and grate some parmigiano-regianno over the top.

At the same time, put some broccoli in a steamer.  I can't emphasize enough how much I like using steamers like http://www.amazon.com/Hamilton-Beach-37537-Digital-Steamer/dp/B002SB8LPA/ref=sr_1_3/175-0430294-7434434?ie=UTF8&qid=1381610205&sr=8-3&keywords=steamer.  Just pop the broccoli in, set it to like 15-25 minutes (depending on how much you have) and when it comes out it will be perfect, delicious, melt-in-your-mouth soft.

Two other saute recipes I use:

Stir fry:

1.  Cut a couple pounds of thighs into thin strips, put in a bowl and coat lightly with some combination of the following:
     a.  msg (optional, just a sprinkling)
     b.  hoisin sauce
     c.  soy sauce
     d.  fish sauce
     e.  oyster sauce
   (I usually just go with hoisin sauce, msg, and a little bit of soy).
2.  Pour a small amount of oil into the chicken, as you shouldn't need to put any in the saute pan later.
3.  Chop up a handful of thin-cut carrots into strips.
4.  Slice up a medium sized (or half) yellow/sweet onion.
5.  Heat up high-quality nonstick very hot, with a little seasoned wok oil (can find at any grocer's oriental section, will have ginger and garlic in ingredients)
6.  Toss in handfuls of carrots, sugar snap peas, broccoli, and sliced bell pepper (optional), and sautee until the broccoli is soft (it's the most stubborn, so when it's done the rest are too).  Transfer each batch into a bowl, when finished.
7.  Sautee the chicken in batches (as described in first recipe).  Transfer into bowl with vegetables when done.
8.  Mix meat/vegetables until well distributed, and garnish with some chopped scallions.

Sounds like a lot of steps, but can actually be done quite quickly, with a little practice.  The use of seasoned wok oil is a big time saver, since you can get the garlic/ginger flavor without having to mince/grate these yourself.  You can also add sesame oil.

Restaurant-style teriyaki:

I'm kind of proud of this one, it's very easy and just as good as the average teriyaki joint.

1.  Rinse two cups of sushi rice in a strainer until the water runs clear.
2.  Put rice in glass dish, cover with an inch of water and steam for 40 minutes (using a steamer as linked above).
3.  Chop a couple lbs of thighs in thin strips.  Add a tablespoon of msg (dont be a bitch, trust me).
4.  Mix 1/3 cup soy sauce, 1/3 cup honey, and 1/3 cup mirin (if you cant find mirin, use sake) in a dish.
5.  Put a little canola oil (or other light oil) in a high-quality nonstick and get it very hot.
6.  Saute the chicken in batches as described in the first recipe.  When it comes time to flip, pour in some of the sauce mixture (i.e. if its 1/3 of the chicken, use one third of the sauce).
7.  When the sauce bubbles have become quite large, wait a minute or two, then you're done.  Transfer batch to a bowl and repeat with the rest of the batches.
8.  By now, the rice should be done.  Spoon rice onto a plate, pour some chicken/sauce over it and garnish with some chopped scallions and, optionally, sesame seeds.

Anyway, by now I'm sure you see the theme to my recipes... lots of sauteed chicken, steamed or sauteed vegetables, and some light flavorings... "bodybuilding style".  You need a couple of good bowls, a good chefs knife, a high quality nonstick, and a couple of implements to flip things.  I use this pan:

http://www.amazon.com/Le-Creuset-Hard-Anodized-12-Inch-Nonstick/dp/B002N2YPL8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1381611501&sr=8-1&keywords=le+creuset+hard+anodized

It's great.  Heavy, durable (can't count the number of times I've had it on high heat for 20+ minutes... and it looks as good as the day it came out of the box), browns food well, and cleaning is a simply case of wiping it out once or twice with a towel.

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2013, 02:07:25 PM »
120 dollar pan  :o

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2013, 02:15:53 PM »
120 dollar pan  :o

imo it really is worth it.  if you don't cook much, or are new to cooking, i wouldn't start with a pan like that.  ruin a couple of cheap ones first.  but once you learn how hot is "too hot", to keep the pan filled (but not overfilled), and not to walk away from a hot burner, you should spring for a nice pan.  i saute meat practically every day, and when you use cheap pans a little slip up means blistering, scorching, teflon in your food, and another 30 bucks to replace it.

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2013, 02:33:14 PM »
imo it really is worth it.  if you don't cook much, or are new to cooking, i wouldn't start with a pan like that.  ruin a couple of cheap ones first.  but once you learn how hot is "too hot", to keep the pan filled (but not overfilled), and not to walk away from a hot burner, you should spring for a nice pan.  i saute meat practically every day, and when you use cheap pans a little slip up means blistering, scorching, teflon in your food, and another 30 bucks to replace it.

Why is it necessary to rinse the rice before cooked??

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2013, 02:34:51 PM »
imo it really is worth it.  if you don't cook much, or are new to cooking, i wouldn't start with a pan like that.  ruin a couple of cheap ones first.  but once you learn how hot is "too hot", to keep the pan filled (but not overfilled), and not to walk away from a hot burner, you should spring for a nice pan.  i saute meat practically every day, and when you use cheap pans a little slip up means blistering, scorching, teflon in your food, and another 30 bucks to replace it.
Yeah I use a cast iron pan for all my steaks. I haven't sprung for a good pan to cook my chicken yet, because I really just got into cooking not long ago.

Man.... it took me a while to get down the use of oils/seasonings.... but my steaks now are every bit as good or better than most steakhouses I go to.

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2013, 02:42:29 PM »
Yeah I use a cast iron pan for all my steaks. I haven't sprung for a good pan to cook my chicken yet, because I really just got into cooking not long ago.

Man.... it took me a while to get down the use of oils/seasonings.... but my steaks now are every bit as good or better than most steakhouses I go to.

yep... it's surprisingly satisfying, huh?

@chiro:

I'm not sure it makes too much of a difference, but supposedly it washes excess starch off so the grains don't stick together once cooked.  The first time I tried it, I really noticed the grains separated very easily and didn't mush together at all, just like at any good asian restaurant... but that also could be because I was using sushi rice for the first time.

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2013, 02:58:16 PM »
yep... it's surprisingly satisfying, huh?

@chiro:

I'm not sure it makes too much of a difference, but supposedly it washes excess starch off so the grains don't stick together once cooked.  The first time I tried it, I really noticed the grains separated very easily and didn't mush together at all, just like at any good asian restaurant... but that also could be because I was using sushi rice for the first time.

Hmm interesting I never would have done this before

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2013, 10:00:37 AM »
you give up on the bustin ass account  ???

bigmc,

"The Revelation" is actually an NPC national-level, heavyweight competitor, who due to contractual obligations has asked to remain anonymous. He is one of Ron's friends and I have met him before at a few NPC shows. He is as legit as it gets and will hopefully share some quality material regarding training, hormone supplementation and dieting.

I have to get around to facilitating his stars.

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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2013, 11:00:05 AM »
bigmc,

"The Revelation" is actually an NPC national-level, heavyweight competitor, who due to contractual obligations has asked to remain anonymous. He is one of Ron's friends and I have met him before at a few NPC shows. He is as legit as it gets and will hopefully share some quality material regarding training, hormone supplementation and dieting.

I have to get around to facilitating his stars.

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OMR, how are you my friend! ya, im like whos 'bustinass' and what kind of guy would want to be associated w a name like that anyway? :D

much thanks for the kinds words and the hype.

im familiar with this place- actually you'd probably not believe how many guys read this board and will not post- theresa shit ton of experienced guys who could add so much value to a discussion here that just arent brave enough to get in the water.

i hope to contribute a little more as time goes by.

but seriously, BC- get her thyroid checked out. cheers.


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Re: Attn Disgusted/OTH/Other getbig diet gurus - help needed for mother in law
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2013, 02:49:59 PM »
a lot of bullshit 'clean macros' and 'clean carbs' advise here. the fuck does eating 'clean' have to do with anything? eat less. period.

shes not being truthful about her cal intake. its thats simple. in that much of a deficit you have to lose weight. the whole 'metabolsim stalled out' is bullshit. servere enough deficit= weight loss. someone said eyeballing cals is the devil- bang on. that shit will sabotage you in no time. you'll be hungry all the time, and not losing weight. double fail.

also send her to the doc to get her thyroid checked. this could be a large part of not just her inablity to lose weight, but the reasonn for the weight gain in the first place.

as for diet, you cant make a normal person eat like us. it will not work. they wont count carbs and protein and cook foods outside what they know and stick to it. best way to get a non trainer sedentary person to lose weight is to cut out the garbage foods, run a deficit, and walk for exercise. diets dont work. lifestyle changes will.



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