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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2013, 06:50:24 AM »
Of course I read it.  Including this part:  "We, the American people, are not each other's enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain jerking everybody's chains and trying to divide us up by age, by race, by income, by virtually anything they can, because these are more controllable units," he said.

How is that nonsense? 

The above is the republican way of doing politics.

Poor people are leeches. People who want to help anyone other than the filthy rich are commies.

To use the above in defense of the republican party is hypocritical and sad.

It would be like if a Nazi accused his opponents of being anti-semitist.

So in this context his words are utter nonsense.

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2013, 06:51:33 AM »
Of course I read it.  Including this part:  "We, the American people, are not each other's enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain jerking everybody's chains and trying to divide us up by age, by race, by income, by virtually anything they can, because these are more controllable units," he said.

How is that nonsense? 


And what has this got to do with the GOP shutting down the government over a law already in place ???

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2013, 06:52:14 AM »

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2013, 12:51:25 PM »
The above is the republican way of doing politics.

Poor people are leeches. People who want to help anyone other than the filthy rich are commies.

To use the above in defense of the republican party is hypocritical and sad.

It would be like if a Nazi accused his opponents of being anti-semitist.

So in this context his words are utter nonsense.


Wrong across the board.  Liberals, led by the president, are the ones constantly trying to divide the country into different demographics.  They are the ones preaching and advocating class warfare.

But even if both parties do it, Carson didn’t accuse liberals of doing  this.  He said “people behind the curtain” are the ones doing it.  He’s right.  So your attempt to make this a “Republican” opinion piece is factually incorrect. 

There is no “Republican” policy that says “poor people are leeches.”  Where are you getting that from? 

There is no “Republican” policy that says people who want to help anyone other than the filthy rich are “commies.”  What specific policies are you talking about in this regard? 

Also, conservatives tend to donate more of their time and money to liberals.  I think loco and I have both posted articles about this. 


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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2013, 12:56:11 PM »

And what has this got to do with the GOP shutting down the government over a law already in place ???

The president was responsible for the government shutdown, but that’s neither here nor there.  The article, which you claim to have read, is talking about elevating the level of political discussion in this country. 

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2013, 12:58:27 PM »
Obama should have taken the deal to delay obamacare for year now seeing what a complete trainwreck it is

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2013, 01:00:20 PM »
Obama should have taken the deal to delay obamacare for year now seeing what a complete trainwreck it is

Tell me about it.  He really is incompetent. 

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2013, 01:48:07 PM »
Wrong across the board.  Liberals, led by the president, are the ones constantly trying to divide the country into different demographics.  They are the ones preaching and advocating class warfare.

Yes and and the only "demographic" the republicans want is white, rich, male, not-gay  and christian.


But even if both parties do it, Carson didn’t accuse liberals of doing  this.  He said “people behind the curtain” are the ones doing it.  He’s right.  So your attempt to make this a “Republican” opinion piece is factually incorrect. 


He is not right.
And since more than half the US think its not maybe you are a little slow???


There is no “Republican” policy that says “poor people are leeches.”  Where are you getting that from? 

Please if you support the GOP at least stand by their shit.

There is no “Republican” policy that says people who want to help anyone other than the filthy rich are “commies.”  What specific policies are you talking about in this regard? 

See above.

Also, conservatives tend to donate more of their time and money to liberals.  I think loco and I have both posted articles about this. 


Thats because you are white and christian. Good people :)

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2013, 01:54:49 PM »
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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2013, 01:55:18 PM »
The president was responsible for the government shutdown, but that’s neither here nor there.

Again your country disagrees with you even conservatives with rational thinking.
That alone should set some alarm clocks of in your head.


The article, which you claim to have read, is talking about elevating the level of political discussion in this country. 

Make it a point reading all of the articles you post "Mod"

"When we start ascribing blame, I find it quite interesting that a lot of people want to say, 'It's all the Republicans.' But, the fact of the matter is, it was the president and his group who were quite willing to allow the country to go off the cliff in order to protect their pet program," he added.

The Republicans, who "went right up to the brink" during the shutdown, have a message of responsibility for the American people, Carson said.

"The message (is one of) of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility on behalf of everybody. But also recognizing the Republicans went right up to the brink. They did fight. Most of the time they wilt long before this," he said.





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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2013, 02:00:03 PM »


Thank you gimmick.  Like I said, his opinion piece is about elevating the level if political discourse in this country. 

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2013, 04:34:48 PM »
Thank you gimmick.  Like I said, his opinion piece is about elevating the level if political discourse in this country. 


How did you become a mod when you cant read? Did you suck Ron's dick or something?

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Im just breaking balls here.



Try reading again slowly this time:



The article, which you claim to have read, is talking about elevating the level of political discussion in this country. 

Make it a point reading all of the articles you post "Mod"

"When we start ascribing blame, I find it quite interesting that a lot of people want to say, 'It's all the Republicans.' But, the fact of the matter is, it was the president and his group who were quite willing to allow the country to go off the cliff in order to protect their pet program," he added.

The Republicans, who "went right up to the brink" during the shutdown, have a message of responsibility for the American people, Carson said.

"The message (is one of) of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility on behalf of everybody. But also recognizing the Republicans went right up to the brink. They did fight. Most of the time they wilt long before this," he said.




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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2013, 10:00:42 AM »
Wrong across the board. Liberals, led by the president, are the ones constantly trying to divide the country into different demographics.  They are the ones preaching and advocating class warfare.

But even if both parties do it, Carson didn’t accuse liberals of doing  this.  He said “people behind the curtain” are the ones doing it.  He’s right.  So your attempt to make this a “Republican” opinion piece is factually incorrect.  

There is no “Republican” policy that says “poor people are leeches.”  Where are you getting that from?  

There is no “Republican” policy that says people who want to help anyone other than the filthy rich are “commies.”  What specific policies are you talking about in this regard?  

Also, conservatives tend to donate more of their time and money to liberals.  I think loco and I have both posted articles about this.  



I'm sure you actually believe this Bum but to the rest of the world we see the Repubs as the ones trying to divide the country and this goes all the way back to Lee Atwater

You're in massive denial if you don't know that this has been a Republican strategy for DECADES

You can tell these lies to yourself but don't expect anyone else to believe them

I'm sure you're well aware of Karl Roves strategy of "anger points"

This is a frontline interview from 2007 talking about this strategy that had already been in place for years where they are talking about the "anger point" of Tort Reform

This strategy has continued to the present day and everyone knows it

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NARRATOR: Rove now had the political consultant's equivalent of the holy grail, a mailing list of donors. Now his newly-formed direct-mail advertising company would use that list and that money to build a Republican base in Texas.

TOM EDSALL: Direct mail— what you do is look for "anger points," and you try to get what makes somebody angry.

NARRATOR: "Anger points" — Republican consultants' shorthand for hot-button issues — were the other central elements of the direct mail arsenal. And for his candidates, Rove put the anger points together with the kind of battle plan he learned from Lee Atwater: attacking, attacking, attacking. Fifty percent of paid media should be devoted to attack. "If we do not attack, we surrender control of the agenda."

WAYNE SLATER: If there's any single thing that defines a Rove campaign, it's smash-mouth politics. He goes after you hammer and tong. He— attack, attack, attack is sort of the model that he used.

NARRATOR: And in the mid-'80s, Rove found an anger point that could unite voters statewide: tort reform. To Rove, tort reform was a simple story. The elected state supreme court had been bought by wealthy Democratic personal injury lawyers

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/etc/script.html
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John Stewart paraphrasing from the book called "Building Red America"

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During the 2004 election, ol' Captain Retrospectively Obvious set out the GOP's strategy of "activating conservatives' anger points", rather than reaching out to moderates.  Anger points like "free health care for illegal immigrants" and "same sex marriage", leading to scenes like this, a sitting United States Senator from Rove's home state of Texas sharing the stage at a rally with this gentleman.

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2013, 10:07:40 AM »
The previous 41 repeals aren't enough? you have to threaten economic ruin in order to stop a constitutional law?


Not sure what more there is to say about it

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2013, 10:14:12 AM »
The previous 41 repeals aren't enough? you have to threaten economic ruin in order to stop a constitutional law?


Not sure what more there is to say about it

I think you're missing the point

Dr. Carson says blaming people is a third grade tactic (really? so no one is ever to blame for anything) but that the blame for the shutdown belongs to Obama and his "group"

Don't you remember when Obama and his group did all the following:

filibustered in the Senate and threatened to shutdown the government
prevented a clean CR from being passed
changed the rules of the House so that only Boehner could call a vote
delayed a vote in the House until the very last minute in an attempt to appease the aforementioned members of Congress
said about the shutdown that "It's exactly what we wanted” and called the reopening of government "a very sad day"
said “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is”
said about a possible default that "“I think, personally, it would bring stability to the world markets.”

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #41 on: October 24, 2013, 10:15:19 AM »
The previous 41 repeals aren't enough? you have to threaten economic ruin in order to stop a constitutional law?


Not sure what more there is to say about it



Obama has agreed to extend to the individual mandate in GhettoCare cause he fucked up the website so badly - remind me again why he refused to negotiate w cruz and Boehner?


Most worthless and scumbag presidency ever.  This asshole should be sent to moombassa on a prayer mat and never let back in this country.  And F U whoever voted for this 2x over

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2013, 10:16:01 AM »
Obama blames . . . . . . .. . . . . . .


The twink blames everyone but himself for his failed presidency

I think you're missing the point

Dr. Carson says blaming people is a third grade tactic (really? so no one is ever to blame for anything) but that the blame for the shutdown belongs to Obama and his "group"

Don't you remember when Obama and his group did all the following:

filibustered in the Senate and threatened to shutdown the government
prevented a clean CR from being passed
changed the rules of the House so that only Boehner could call a vote
delayed a vote in the House until the very last minute in an attempt to appease the aforementioned members of Congress
said about the shutdown that "It's exactly what we wanted” and called the reopening of government "a very sad day"
said “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is”
said about a possible default that "“I think, personally, it would bring stability to the world markets.”

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2013, 10:25:47 AM »
Obama blames . . . . . . .. . . . . . .


The twink blames everyone but himself for his failed presidency


do you get paid every time you say "twink" or do you just get excited by doing it

yeah, he's such a failure, especially when compared to a winner such as yourself

fucking moron

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2013, 10:31:44 AM »


Obama has agreed to extend to the individual mandate in GhettoCare cause he fucked up the website so badly - remind me again why he refused to negotiate w cruz and Boehner?


Most worthless and scumbag presidency ever.  This asshole should be sent to moombassa on a prayer mat and never let back in this country.  And F U whoever voted for this 2x over

lol....dude i seriously laughed out loud. Youre a funny little guy

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2013, 10:33:41 AM »
Obama blames . . . . . . .. . . . . . .


The twink blames everyone but himself for his failed presidency


but if his presidency was so failed to begin with...i sure the US had 4 years to figure it out....Why did he 4 more years?

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2013, 10:35:40 AM »
but if his presidency was so failed to begin with...i sure the US had 4 years to figure it out....Why did he 4 more years?

Minority racists who care only about skin color
Welfare thugs
Govt workers
Drug addicted and dumb college kids
Gays/Lezbos etc
Hipsters and guilt ridden white worthless pansies,



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« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2013, 10:36:06 AM »
but if his presidency was so failed to begin with...i sure the US had 4 years to figure it out....Why did he 4 more years?

he could very likely get elected for a 3rd term if he was allowed to run

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2013, 10:38:02 AM »
Minority racists who care only about skin color
Welfare thugs
Govt workers
Drug addicted and dumb college kids
Gays/Lezbos etc
Hipsters and guilt ridden white worthless pansies,




but hes black...and blacks arent the majority,

Youre theory is flawed.

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Re: Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2013, 10:42:34 AM »
Minority racists who care only about skin color
Welfare thugs
Govt workers
Drug addicted and dumb college kids
Gays/Lezbos etc
Hipsters and guilt ridden white worthless pansies,

is that what you kept telling yourself as you're were laying on a floor in the fetal position sucking your thumb when Obama won by a landslide in 2012

hey, didn't you say you were going to leave this board after that election

why are you still here?