Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game

[Dos Equis]

Truth.

Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
Friday, 18 Oct 2013
By Wanda Carruthers

Calling people names while assessing blame for the government shutdown is a "third-grade" tactic, Dr. Ben Carson told "Fox & Friends."

"I'm very hopeful that, at some point, people will grow up and stop the third-grade tactics of calling people names," Carson said Friday.

Carson, a retired surgery professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, came into the national spotlight after criticizing Obamacare at this year's National Prayer Breakfast, where President Barack Obama was in attendance.

"When we start ascribing blame, I find it quite interesting that a lot of people want to say, 'It's all the Republicans.' But, the fact of the matter is, it was the president and his group who were quite willing to allow the country to go off the cliff in order to protect their pet program," he added.

The Republicans, who "went right up to the brink" during the shutdown, have a message of responsibility for the American people, Carson said.

"The message (is one of) of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility on behalf of everybody. But also recognizing the Republicans went right up to the brink. They did fight. Most of the time they wilt long before this," he said.

Americans are not each others' enemies, Carson maintained, pointing to the people who wish to divide everybody into "more controllable units."

"We, the American people, are not each other's enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain jerking everybody's chains and trying to divide us up by age, by race, by income, by virtually anything they can, because these are more controllable units," he said.

"People, I believe, are waking up," Carson added.

http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Carson-third-grade-blame-shutdown/2013/10/18/id/531858#ixzz2i61tkC8C

[Soul Crusher]

That's all the left does to explain their failures -blame blame blame blame

[Dos Equis]

I was talking to a liberal friend about this whole thing yesterday and he actually starting complaining about Ronald Reagan. 

[Straw Man]

Of course Republicans don't want people to blame them for the shutdown because it's killing them in the polls

If they were going up in the polls because of the shutdown they wouldn't hesitate to admit the truth

Let's do a quick review

It wasn't a Democratic Senator who filibustered in the Senate and threatened to shutdown the government
It wasn't a handful of Democratic members of Congress who prevented a clean CR from being passed
It wasn't a Democrat who changed the rules of the House so that only Boehner could call a vote
It wasn't a Democratic Speaker who stalled a delayed a vote until the very last minute in an attempt to appease the aforementioned members of Congress
It wasn't a Democratic member of Congress who said about the shutdown that "It's exactly what we wanted” and called the reopening of government "a very sad day"
It wasn't a Democratic member of Congress who said “We have to get something out of this. And I don’t know what that even is”
It was not a Democratic member of Congress who said about a possible default that "“I think, personally, it would bring stability to the world markets.”


All of those things were done by Republicans

Republicans own this entire fiasco and EVERYONE knows it

Of course they are in damage control mode but no one is buying their bullshit
It's not the Democratic Members of Congress who are very angry that the government has reopened

[dario73]

I was talking to a liberal friend about this whole thing yesterday and he actually starting complaining about Ronald Reagan. 

Doesn't surprise me.

Did you see that video where libtards blame Bush for the shutdown? The man has not been in office for 5 years and the roaches are still blaming him.

In 30 years the economy will actually get better and I bet those same libtards will somehow give credit to Obama. It is sad how delusional they are.

[Dos Equis]

Doesn't surprise me.

Did you see that video where libtards blame Bush for the shutdown? The man has not been in office for 5 years and the roaches are still blaming him.

In 30 years the economy will actually get better and I bet those same libtards will somehow give credit to Obama. It is sad how delusional they are.

I watched it.  Embarrassing. 

[Straw Man]

Doesn't surprise me.

Did you see that video where libtards blame Bush for the shutdown? The man has not been in office for 5 years and the roaches are still blaming him.

In 30 years the economy will actually get better and I bet those same libtards will somehow give credit to Obama. It is sad how delusional they are.

you mean the video where the person with the microphone asked them if they blame Bush and only shows you the handful of people who do and not the ones who say they don't

You'd have to be a certified moron to believe that means anything

oh wait, I forgot who I was replying to

carry on

[Soul Crusher]

you mean the video where the person with the microphone asked them if they blame Bush and only shows you the handful of people who do and not the ones who say they don't

You'd have to be a certified moron to believe that means anything

oh wait, I forgot who I was replying to

carry on

Go back to bed

[Straw Man]

Go back to bed

feel free to refute one thing I've said on this thread

[Necrosis]

Truth.

Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
Friday, 18 Oct 2013
By Wanda Carruthers

Calling people names while assessing blame for the government shutdown is a "third-grade" tactic, Dr. Ben Carson told "Fox & Friends."

"I'm very hopeful that, at some point, people will grow up and stop the third-grade tactics of calling people names," Carson said Friday.

Carson, a retired surgery professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, came into the national spotlight after criticizing Obamacare at this year's National Prayer Breakfast, where President Barack Obama was in attendance.

"When we start ascribing blame, I find it quite interesting that a lot of people want to say, 'It's all the Republicans.' But, the fact of the matter is, it was the president and his group who were quite willing to allow the country to go off the cliff in order to protect their pet program," he added.

The previous 41 repeals aren't enough? you have to threaten economic ruin in order to stop a constitutional law?

The Republicans, who "went right up to the brink" during the shutdown, have a message of responsibility for the American people, Carson said.

"The message (is one of) of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility on behalf of everybody. But also recognizing the Republicans went right up to the brink. They did fight. Most of the time they wilt long before this," he said.
Fiscal responsibility? 26 billion down the tubes, slowed economic growth and loss of jobs over trying to stop a law that couldn't be stopped by the means they enlisted? Getting the US downgraded by risking default previously? Oh and that personal responsibility of calling this Obama's shutdown.

Americans are not each others' enemies, Carson maintained, pointing to the people who wish to divide everybody into "more controllable units."

"We, the American people, are not each other's enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain jerking everybody's chains and trying to divide us up by age, by race, by income, by virtually anything they can, because these are more controllable units," he said.

"People, I believe, are waking up," Carson added.

I get the feeling this guy is religious, is he?
http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Carson-third-grade-blame-shutdown/2013/10/18/id/531858#ixzz2i61tkC8C

[Dos Equis]

Difficult to read and respond to imbedded text, but yes he's "religious," like the overwhelming majority in America.  What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

[whork]

Difficult to read and respond to imbedded text, but yes he's "religious," like the overwhelming majority in America.  What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Religious people believe in fairy tales and so do you if you believe this nonsense.

[Necrosis]

Difficult to read and respond to imbedded text, but yes he's "religious," like the overwhelming majority in America.  What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Well it shows that someone can suspend logic and reason for faith, thus he has a tendency to favor belief over facts in some areas. For example there is literally no evidence of god, none, yet he has faith. I am not against people believing in god or an pantheistic organizing force or some shit but I tend to find people with these beliefs tend to let "faith" seep into other areas.

I see religious belief as pretty arcane, is he a young earth creationist?

[24KT]

Well it shows that someone can suspend logic and reason for faith, thus he has a tendency to favor belief over facts in some areas. For example there is literally no evidence of god, none, yet he has faith. I am not against people believing in god or an pantheistic organizing force or some shit but I tend to find people with these beliefs tend to let "faith" seep into other areas.

I see religious belief as pretty arcane, is he a young earth creationist?

Makes perfect sense to me. That's the difference between 'knowing' & 'having faith'

Faith is the expectation of, or trust in something for which the evidence has yet to be seen.
eg: I have faith that Soulcrusher is actually an intelligent human being. lol. See how that works?  

j/k, I think he's really as dumb as a stump!  

Seriously jk Chris. I'm picking on you only because I know you have a good sense of humour and can occasionally laugh at yourself.

[Dos Equis]

Religious people believe in fairy tales and so do you if you believe this nonsense.

What nonsense are you talking about?  How old are you?

[Dos Equis]

Well it shows that someone can suspend logic and reason for faith, thus he has a tendency to favor belief over facts in some areas. For example there is literally no evidence of god, none, yet he has faith. I am not against people believing in god or an pantheistic organizing force or some shit but I tend to find people with these beliefs tend to let "faith" seep into other areas.

I see religious belief as pretty arcane, is he a young earth creationist?

I have no idea.  Maybe you can Google it and find out?  I do know he is one of the top and most famous neurosurgeons in history.

But none of that has anything to do with the points he made.  He is right.  The debate is DC is about on the level of some of the playground rhetoric used by some on this board. 

[Straw Man]

Like I said last week

The Repubs OWN this shutdown and if it hadn't harmed them in the polls they would have no problem publicly taking full ownership

The only reason they are trying to pretend otherwise is because of the damage they did to their party

If Repubs don't own it then why is it that it's ONLY Repub members of Congress who were happy when the government was shut down and mad when it reopened

If Repubs don't own this then why is the media asking people like Ted Cruz if they are going to shut down the government AGAIN in a few months

If you need any more proof that this was a Republican owned hostage situation all you need to do is look at the Republican rule change in the house whose SOLE PURPOSE was to prevent a clean CR fro coming to a vote thereby ENSURING a governemnt shutdown

If Repubs want to lie to themselves and pretend they are not to blame that is fine but don't expect the rest of the country to just fall into place and believe such nonsense

[whork]

What nonsense are you talking about?  How old are you?

Your nonsense. The article you posted.

[Dos Equis]

Your nonsense. The article you posted.

I doubt you read it.  How old are you?

[Straw Man]

Truth.

Carson: Stop 'Third-Grade' Blame Game
Friday, 18 Oct 2013
By Wanda Carruthers

Calling people names while assessing blame for the government shutdown is a "third-grade" tactic, Dr. Ben Carson told "Fox & Friends."

"I'm very hopeful that, at some point, people will grow up and stop the third-grade tactics of calling people names," Carson said Friday.

Carson, a retired surgery professor at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, came into the national spotlight after criticizing Obamacare at this year's National Prayer Breakfast, where President Barack Obama was in attendance.

"When we start ascribing blame, I find it quite interesting that a lot of people want to say, 'It's all the Republicans.' But, the fact of the matter is, it was the president and his group who were quite willing to allow the country to go off the cliff in order to protect their pet program," he added.

The Republicans, who "went right up to the brink" during the shutdown, have a message of responsibility for the American people, Carson said.

"The message (is one of) of personal responsibility and fiscal responsibility on behalf of everybody. But also recognizing the Republicans went right up to the brink. They did fight. Most of the time they wilt long before this," he said.

Americans are not each others' enemies, Carson maintained, pointing to the people who wish to divide everybody into "more controllable units."

"We, the American people, are not each other's enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain jerking everybody's chains and trying to divide us up by age, by race, by income, by virtually anything they can, because these are more controllable units," he said.

"People, I believe, are waking up," Carson added.

http://www.newsmax.com/NewsmaxTv/Carson-third-grade-blame-shutdown/2013/10/18/id/531858#ixzz2i61tkC8C

god damn you Repubs are fucking idiots

I assume this was supposed to be a Ben Carson friendly story since it was on Faux News

Carson say it's a third grade tactic to assess blame (really?  don't we assess blame every day for lots of things?)
 
so his argument is that it's a third grade tactic to assess blame and then proceeds to tell us we should blame "the president and his group" ?

Hey, the good news is that he also thinks people are waking up

I agree with him on that but just for the same reason

[Soul Crusher]

god damn you Repubs are fucking idiots

I assume this was supposed to be a Ben Carson friendly story since it was on Faux News

Carson say it's a third grade tactic to assess blame (really?  don't we assess blame every day for lots of things?)
 
so his argument is that it's a third grade tactic to assess blame and then proceeds to tell us we should blame "the president and his group" ?

Hey, the good news is that he also thinks people are waking up

I agree with him on that but just for the same reason

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-deems-health-glitches-unacceptable-gop-calls-obamacare-doa-article-1.1491281

[Straw Man]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-deems-health-glitches-unacceptable-gop-calls-obamacare-doa-article-1.1491281

jesus 333 - can't you wait at least a minute before you randomly respond to a post

this thread is about the shutdown and more specifically Ben Carsons apparently insane statements

if you want to make a statement that Obama deems the ACA website issues unacceptable and that the GOP still hates it then start a thread or at least find one that's closer to what the fuck you're posting about

[Soul Crusher]

jesus 333 - can't you wait at least a minute before you randomly respond to a post

this thread is about the shutdown and more specifically Ben Carsons apparently insane statements

if you want to make a statement that Obama deems the ACA website issues unacceptable and that the GOP still hates it then start a thread or at least find one that's closer to what the fuck you're posting about

That POS you voted for 2x needs to accept responsibility for the mess he made

[whork]

What nonsense are you talking about?  How old are you?

I read it. Did you read it?

[Dos Equis]

I read it. Did you read it?

Of course I read it.  Including this part:  "We, the American people, are not each other's enemies. The enemies are those people behind the curtain jerking everybody's chains and trying to divide us up by age, by race, by income, by virtually anything they can, because these are more controllable units," he said.

How is that nonsense?