Author Topic: Muscle Soreness  (Read 7976 times)

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2006, 07:16:11 PM »
I think quiting lifting till all soreness goes away is wrong.  I have done many comebacks (nothing like the one now) and even though  I am sore as hell the next day ro two days after I just decrease the weight and work through it.  Usually after just a few sets I am okay.  I would think if you quit completely just because you are sore, when you come back again you are going to be sore again and then you have to qut again and so one.  I think training lighter and working through the soreness is best.  You should know your body and just how far you can go before sustaining a real injury.  If I am doing 405 when I come back and I am sore then you bet the next workout I am usuing 315 or 225 to warmup more.  Cause I know I am to sore to do the 405.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2006, 07:39:54 PM »
I *used* to work through soreness-the usual BB mentality that more is better. After years of this I realized that there's no benefit to forcing the muscles through it. Soreness following a long layoff's a one-time thing that doesn't return again whether you rest or train.

Progress occurs over the intermediate and long-term term-months or more; a missed workout or four's meaningless.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2006, 06:18:27 PM »
There is no reason to not work out if you are still sore, the increased blood flow usually relieves the soreness in a few minutes and gets the body used to working through barriers. Not working through soreness just because you are sore is a mental limitation not a physical limitation.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2006, 06:57:42 PM »
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Not working through soreness just because you are sore is a mental limitation not a physical limitation.
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Actually the biggest mental limitation is the familiar BB compulsion to lift no matter what.

While sore all you need is light movement to get the blood moving-doesn't have to be weights at all and nothing intense. Or lift heavily using other muscles.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2006, 09:34:34 PM »
I'm not argue about this, cause I think maybe for some it might work resting all that time.  What I do know is how I did it and I didn't rest a week.  I just lowered the weight.  And it seemed to work good enough for about 20 years where there wasn't too many if anyone stronger than me in any gym I went to around the world.  I like doing what works for me not others.  We are all different and our bodies react differently for better or for worse.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2006, 09:02:58 AM »
Agree with Onlyme and the SupplementGuy just about 100%. Starting light enought, the next workout (in a couple of days) allows an increased blood flow and can actually help heal and aid the recovery of a sore muscle group. This can insure steady progress and gain in most  any lift.  Resting too long between workouts because of soreness is counterproductive in the long run. Some guy's (and me) will do  50 reps or so with  a empty bar in the bench, if there's soreness from that exercise the  day before, just to bring healing blood into the area. This works very well from my experiences with myself and others. Good Luck.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2006, 09:23:57 AM »
Thinking outside of the box and getting away from an adherence to things strictly by the book, all that matters is activity & getting the blood moving-blading, bike, jogging, etc.

Taking a broader perspective, absolutely no need to be stuck with lifting at all times. Diverse activities are mentally beneficial & create a more athletic look.  ;)


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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2006, 09:50:32 AM »
Thinking outside of the box and getting away from an adherence to things strictly by the book, all that matters is activity & getting the blood moving-blading, bike, jogging, etc.

Taking a broader perspective, absolutely no need to be stuck with lifting at all times. Diverse activities are mentally beneficial & create a more athletic look.  ;)



That's cardio stuff you are talking about now, not lifting. Are you suggesting jogging instead of lifting weights? The activities you are describing should be done on non-lifting days.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2006, 09:55:18 AM »
A narrow conception of training. I prefer open-mindeness and freedom from self-imposed perceptions. There are MANY avenues available, not simply ones you've decided for us within the realm of lifting.

I used to confine myself to the same preconceptions when i was in my teens. Been there, done that. Experience and observation tend to enlighten.  :D

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2006, 10:23:53 AM »
Pumpster: With all due respect and acknowledgement of you experience, WTF are you talking about?

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2006, 10:25:45 AM »
Maybe you should ask yourself that question-you're stuck with the same preconceptions i had lifting as a teenager. I did then exactly what you still do, and it made no difference.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2006, 02:23:18 PM »
You should be as free as the wind and imagine you are a bird, high in the sky looking down upon yourself, duly toiling through to reach your lofty goals.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2006, 05:56:01 PM »
That's cardio stuff you are talking about now, not lifting. Are you suggesting jogging instead of lifting weights? The activities you are describing should be done on non-lifting days.

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Pumpster you didn't answer the question.

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2006, 06:50:09 PM »
"If you are in water you should become the water"

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2006, 07:43:02 AM »
BOARDS DONT HIT BACK

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Re: Muscle Soreness
« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2006, 05:28:57 AM »
That which does not kill you makes you stronger also  ;).Seriously I agree w/SupplementGuy & onlyme in that you can or will be able to train the muscles again within a few days but maybe not at full capacity you usually can w/the soreness.It's what i've always done.Here's a story for an example of my experience w/soreness & how I never get sore after the first time soreness.Remember this is "my" personal experience & the way my body works.
When I was 16/17 yrs old I weighred 175 lbs.I traineed w/a fellow that was maybe 4-5 yrs. older than me.One day after we had worked out the evening before he was telling me how sore he was.I told him what I stated here how I never get sore again after the first initial soreness.Well he had me do a leg workout!I used 175 lbs. & did reps w/it from 20 reps all the way down to a single repetition.1st set 175lbs x 20 reps,2nd set 175 lbs x 19 reps,3rd set 175 lbs x 18 reps etc. all the down to just 1 rep.We also did the usual thigh curls,lunges,extensions etc. but just regular straight set style.Anyway, the next day he was sore as hell yet I just had a dull ache in my muscles, nothing that would hinder me from doing any daily activities etc.
As onlyme said & I feel the same way....what works for me may be unusual & maybe won't work for you because everyone is different.Theres a few things that are freaky about me & my body in regards to weight training but i'm not complaining, makes it easier for me :).To each their own.