UFC 178 - Jon Jones vs Daniel Cormier brawl (at media day)

[gracie bjj]

im curious to see how jones guard is,cause he will b on his back alot in this fight. for greg jackson to not get jones working on drills from the bottom on wall walking n escapes to get back to feet would b nuts, i think this fights gonna b like when randy fought tito,tito was used to bullying people around n having his way with them,then when randy did exactly what tito usually does tito was lost.i know jones has better striking than ortiz but im just trying to make a point of getting manhandled n realizing u r screwed,jones,like ortiz walks around at 235 plus or even 240 ive heard from people who seen jones all bloated at 240 on the scale,jones should b fighting HW,but he wont cause that would mean hed actually have to fight n earn his money,cain would rip him a new ass,junior dos would wreck jones also,no doubt. jones is saying he wants a superfight with weidman,at what weight? does he want chris to move up to 195 or something?i gotta check out the article more. jones belt days r coming to an end,people want to see giant slams n giant KO,S like rumble johnson n cormier bring to the table,jones is exciting ill say that but i think people r getting tired of his (fight to win style) instead of (fight to give the fans their moneys worth),when a fighter starts fighting to just keep the belt its downhill from there on

[OTHstrong]

I disagree, I think stylistically it plays into Jones hands, Cormier will be looking for take downs all the time and be eating a bunch of knees and elbows on the way in. I also think Jones will control the range on the outside with leg kicks and counter Cormier on the way in. His take down defense is outstanding. It's cormier who has never met anyone with Jones versatility before, thats the key point.

Rashad Evans was no joke on the ground, no joke at all and similar to Cormier and Jones handled him very well. I expect jones to handle Cormier same way as he did Rashad.

Cormier's sheer power can get anyone in the world on their back if he rushes them like a bull, not that wise to do since it costs so much exhaustion and fatigue to do so in most cases but Cormier's is a rare breed and has the conditioning to be able to so while maintaining a relatively low heart rate. His record of explosive movements has shown it has never fatigue him in the past.

BTW comparing Rashed to a freak of nature with explosive (bull) power is outrageous

[Uncle Junior]

Well we can debate this all day long, just frustrating that the fights been called off.

On a tangent why do you think MMA fighters are so fat compared to bodybuilders?

Since MMA guys burn through literally like fucking 5 thousand calories a day and I doubt they are eating like fucking 10k calories a day.

Why is a guy like Cormier so fat?

Is it simply drugs?

[gracie bjj]

Cormier's sheer power can get anyone in the world on their back if he rushes them like a bull, not that wise to do since it costs so much exhaustion and fatigue to do so in most cases but Cormier's is a rare breed and has the conditioning to be able to so while maintaining a relatively low heart rate. His record of explosive movements has shown it has never fatigue him in the past.

BTW comparing Rashed to a freak of nature with explosive (bull) power is outrageous

very good n accurate post,rashad n cormier trained together afew times n rashad admitted that cormier was one of the only guys who he couldnt stop from taking him down almost at will,rashad wasnt even an all american in wrestling he was division one at best i think,cormier was on the OLYMPIC TEAM IN 2004 AND captain OF THE 2008 olympic wrestling team comparing rashad to cormier in wrestling is  like comparing a regional champ in high school against chael sanderson when he was undefeated in college,not even close.im standing by my predictions n saying that cormier will slam jones on his head in first rd atleast once,and will win belt with not to much problems

[polychronopolous]

Cormier's sheer power can get anyone in the world on their back if he rushes them like a bull, not that wise to do since it costs so much exhaustion and fatigue to do so in most cases but Cormier's is a rare breed and has the conditioning to be able to so while maintaining a relatively low heart rate. His record of explosive movements has shown it has never fatigue him in the past.

BTW comparing Rashed to a freak of nature with explosive (bull) power is outrageous

That plus Cormier will be training his ASS OFF for this one.

Put that shit in the bank.

[Royalty]

Well we can debate this all day long, just frustrating that the fights been called off.

On a tangent why do you think MMA fighters are so fat compared to bodybuilders?

Since MMA guys burn through literally like fucking 5 thousand calories a day and I doubt they are eating like fucking 10k calories a day.

Why is a guy like Cormier so fat?

Is it simply drugs?

Cormier has admitted that he has practiced poor weight management in the past (pertaining more toward the 2008 Olympics)

[thebrink]

cormier is a very good striker,not as flashy as jones but just as accurate

check out the stats

cormier- strikes landed per minute-4.08              jon jones- strikes landed per minute-4.33
                                                                  
                                                                  
             striking accuracy            50%            striking accuracy                  54%    
             strike defense                70%            striking defense                    66%
             takedown defense          100%           takedown defense                 96%
             takedown accuracy         49%            takedown accuracy               50%
             takedown average           3.5              takedown average                2.37

                                           pretty much even stats so cormier has got all around solid game
                        i know people might say jones fought tougher competition but thats highly debatable

Exactly. Its not a beauty contest ffs

[Tyr]

Sumo grandmaster Steven Seagal does the dance of joy to aid Jones speedy recovery. Hail to the chief baby.

[gracie bjj]

Sumo grandmaster Steven Seagal does the dance of joy to aid Jones speedy recovery. Hail to the chief baby.

lol, please god dont ever let me hear steven seagal is teaching jones some secret aikido moves to get him ready for cormier id officially have to give up watchin MMA then

[Radical Plato]

lol, please god dont ever let me hear steven seagal is teaching jones some secret aikido moves to get him ready for cormier id officially have to give up watchin MMA then

[Radical Plato]

Sumo grandmaster Steven Seagal does the dance of joy to aid Jones speedy recovery. Hail to the chief baby.

[honest]

I disagree, I think stylistically it plays into Jones hands, Cormier will be looking for take downs all the time and be eating a bunch of knees and elbows on the way in. I also think Jones will control the range on the outside with leg kicks and counter Cormier on the way in. His take down defense is outstanding. It's cormier who has never met anyone with Jones versatility before, thats the key point.

Rashad Evans was no joke on the ground, no joke at all and similar to Cormier and Jones handled him very well. I expect jones to handle Cormier same way as he did Rashad.

Huge difference between Cormier and Rashad, both have good right hands but wrestling ability Cormier is in a different league, he might bore the shit out of you but his style is very neutralising and no way jones can compete on the ground with him, only thing that worries me is if they get stuck against the fence in an attempted take down and John gets some of those standing elbows to the temple in, Cormier has to be quick getting him down, mid position Jones can take him out with elbows, legal and illegal.

[gracie bjj]

i hear u honest but lets face it,who has jones KO,D with that standing elbow? whats beautiful about that is if jones is close enough to throw that elbow cormier will b close enough to grab him n slam him