Author Topic: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda. (Read 12213 times)

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #50 on:** March 03, 2015, 08:32:04 AM »

Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on March 02, 2015, 10:22:54 AM

It's the police that have pushed the gov to do this. They will be unstoppable.

They are one in the same.

benchmstr · « **Reply #51 on:** March 03, 2015, 08:48:30 AM »

Quote from: scottt on March 03, 2015, 07:40:05 AM

This could just be propaganda for us to buy more bullets. Anyone know where I can get some cheap 308 rounds for my AR-10

buying ammo for a 308? sacrilege!

load your own!

bench

Archer77 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 03, 2015, 08:50:39 AM »

Quote from: BB on March 02, 2015, 05:20:18 PM

2) They are trying to make an end run around the existing law without any public discussion. The GCA law of 68 is very specific about what can constitute a banned ammunition. What the ATF is seeking to do is redefine all of that by executive order, etc.... with no impute from anyone, and that is troubling.

Bumping BB's post. It's very important not to miss this point.

illuminati · « **Reply #53 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:17:10 PM »

Quote from: Erik C on March 02, 2015, 02:31:46 PM

In a free country the People Are The Militia. Consider Switzerland. There, every man jack, of sound mind and body, between the ages of 21 and 60, is a member of the militia. As such they are required to keep, in their home, a fully automatic rifle, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. No one invades Switzerland, and the government doesn't try to take away the rights and privileges of Swiss citizens.

If that is true, it's how all good countries / governments
Should allow its citizens to be armed.

Think I'd like to move to Switzerland.

_aj_ · « **Reply #54 on:** March 03, 2015, 02:39:39 PM »

Quote from: benchmstr on March 03, 2015, 08:48:30 AM

buying ammo for a 308? sacrilege!

load your own!

bench

Dunno, the Federal Gold Match with the 168 gr BTHP is a fine commercial load.

WalterWhite · « **Reply #55 on:** March 03, 2015, 04:19:34 PM »

Quote from: falco on March 02, 2015, 08:33:53 AM

She will distract the police.

What was this thread about?

benchmstr · « **Reply #56 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:00:44 AM »

Quote from: _aj_ on March 03, 2015, 02:39:39 PM

Dunno, the Federal Gold Match with the 168 gr BTHP is a fine commercial load.

168 grain? Men use175 and 177 grain amax!

Bench

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:09:03 AM »

Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on March 02, 2015, 09:58:35 AM

When the cops take over and you become the slave of the state.

I'm a cop and I have zero desire to take over. I just talked to some of my buddies and they too had little to no interest in taking over althought Bill said he might consider it if there's free booze involved.

Twaddle · « **Reply #58 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:39:08 AM »

Quote from: benchmstr on March 05, 2015, 08:00:44 AM

168 grain? Men use175 and 177 grain amax!

Bench

Use them for what?

_aj_ · « **Reply #59 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:21:45 AM »

Quote from: Twaddle on March 05, 2015, 08:39:08 AM

Use them for what?

To put 0.30" holes in targets.

Archer77 · « **Reply #60 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:25:57 AM »

Quote from: Agnostic007 on March 05, 2015, 08:09:03 AM

I'm a cop and I have zero desire to take over. I just talked to some of my buddies and they too had little to no interest in taking over althought Bill said he might consider it if there's free booze involved.

That's exactly what a lying no-good fascist pig would say

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #61 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:35:43 AM »

Quote from: Archer77 on March 05, 2015, 09:25:57 AM

That's exactly what a lying no-good fascist pig would say

way to quick for me fella... I'll have to go to plan b

Twaddle · « **Reply #62 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:40:00 AM »

Quote from: _aj_ on March 05, 2015, 09:21:45 AM

To put 0.30" holes in targets.

That's an expensive hole punch. $:-\$

ESFitness · « **Reply #63 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:01:53 PM »

Quote from: LittleJ on March 02, 2015, 11:27:22 AM

I hate guns. How many people die from guns in Japan? Exactly! I hope all guns get banned.

we'll see what tune you cry when they ban knives and swords and you're cutting your fish with the edge of a fork.

ESFitness · « **Reply #64 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:11:58 PM »

is this to include 5.7 ammo as well?

Twaddle · « **Reply #65 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:12:48 PM »

Quote from: ESFitness on March 05, 2015, 08:11:58 PM

is this to include 5.7 ammo as well?

No, why?

ESFitness · « **Reply #66 on:** March 05, 2015, 08:23:07 PM »

Quote from: Twaddle on March 05, 2015, 08:12:48 PM

No, why?

it's a nice round

benchmstr · « **Reply #67 on:** March 05, 2015, 09:25:18 PM »

Quote from: ESFitness on March 05, 2015, 08:23:07 PM

it's a nice round

for penetration? yes...for getting the job done? no..thats why the mag holds 20..you might need all of them lol

bench

ESFitness · « **Reply #68 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:56:09 AM »

Quote from: benchmstr on March 05, 2015, 09:25:18 PM

for penetration? yes...for getting the job done? no..thats why the mag holds 20..you might need all of them lol

bench

I'm aware. 'stopping/knock-down' power is nil, but incredibly easy to put 2 double taps in a 3" space at 20yards.

9/40/45/380 in a self defense situation, you gotta aim center-mass, with a 5.7 you can go for a headshot.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #69 on:** March 06, 2015, 09:59:50 AM »

I got a good deal on XM193 recently. I haven't bought any M855 in a while.

This is just another attempt to weaken the 2nd amendment in a roundabout way. They can't change the laws so they try to find a slick way to undermine it. Pretty much the definition of "Infringe".

Twaddle · « **Reply #70 on:** March 06, 2015, 03:59:58 PM »

It appears that M855 and SS109 might already be illegal. WTF is this shit?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/03/06/exclusive-atf-has-already-banned-common-at15-green-tip-ammunition-n1966761

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #71 on:** March 06, 2015, 05:14:27 PM »

For law enforcement safety. lol.

If you happen to be one that believes that Obama is preparing the citizens of the USA for "something", all the pieces are falling into place.........one at a time. I'm surprised by how little opposition there is to him.

benchmstr · « **Reply #72 on:** March 06, 2015, 10:53:23 PM »

Quote from: ESFitness on March 06, 2015, 09:56:09 AM

I'm aware. 'stopping/knock-down' power is nil, but incredibly easy to put 2 double taps in a 3" space at 20yards.

9/40/45/380 in a self defense situation, you gotta aim center-mass, with a 5.7 you can go for a headshot.

your gonna aim where your training dictates and where the opportunity is..and there is no such thing as "knockdown" power with a handgun unless you are talking magnum calibers or a full load 10mm(not the piece of shit 40 s&w)

bench

greeneyes · « **Reply #73 on:** March 07, 2015, 06:22:17 AM »

If any citizen has the right to protect himself by a gun then the police and security services are useless and don't do their work properly. Therefore, you can live without the police.