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Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« on: March 02, 2015, 08:21:27 AM »
Obama bowing to Law Enforcement and trying to ban Armour Piercing bullets is a true sign he wants people to be slaves.  it would make the general public defensless when Marshal law takes over.  Your little bullets will just bounce off the cops patrolling your street and controlling your lives.  What recourse will people have if they can't fight back?  What ever happened to the government representing the people and the police serving and protecting the people?  It seems none of that is true anymore.

President Obama’s visceral hatred for Second Amendment is well known, and so it isn’t surprising that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) under his control is attempting to ban the most common practice ammunition for the best-selling rifle in the nation, the AR-15.
 
Currently, the ATF is attempting to ban common M855 ball ammunition by reclassifying it as “armor-piercing” ammunition, even though the bullet, with its 80-percent (by weight) lead core and small mild steel insert doesn’t come close to meeting the legal definition.
 
Congress has quickly recognized the attempt to ban M855 for the attack on the Second Amendment that it clearly is, as the ATF’s “framework” argument now aimed at M855 ammunition for 5.56 NATO rifles could then be quickly used to ban almost all rifle ammunition in every caliber if unopposed.
 
Fortunately for law-abiding Americans, it appears that the audacious attempt on the heart of the Second Amendment by Obama’s ATF may end up backfiring.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2015, 08:33:53 AM »

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2015, 08:35:36 AM »
Obama bowing to Law Enforcement and trying to ban Armour Piercing bullets is a true sign he wants people to be slaves.  it would make the general public defensless when Marshal law takes over.  Your little bullets will just bounce off the cops patrolling your street and controlling your lives.  What recourse will people have if they can't fight back?  What ever happened to the government representing the people and the police serving and protecting the people?  It seems none of that is true anymore.

President Obama’s visceral hatred for Second Amendment is well known, and so it isn’t surprising that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) under his control is attempting to ban the most common practice ammunition for the best-selling rifle in the nation, the AR-15.
 
Currently, the ATF is attempting to ban common M855 ball ammunition by reclassifying it as “armor-piercing” ammunition, even though the bullet, with its 80-percent (by weight) lead core and small mild steel insert doesn’t come close to meeting the legal definition.
 
Congress has quickly recognized the attempt to ban M855 for the attack on the Second Amendment that it clearly is, as the ATF’s “framework” argument now aimed at M855 ammunition for 5.56 NATO rifles could then be quickly used to ban almost all rifle ammunition in every caliber if unopposed.
 
Fortunately for law-abiding Americans, it appears that the audacious attempt on the heart of the Second Amendment by Obama’s ATF may end up backfiring.


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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2015, 08:59:37 AM »

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2015, 09:00:19 AM »
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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2015, 09:05:59 AM »
This move will have zero impact on gun crime.  It's a political move not a practical or effective strategy to decrease gun violence.   I'm all about what works and this won't do shit
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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2015, 09:36:13 AM »
Theres very little difference between green tip ammo and 55 grain. They both will penetrate body armor. What they're doing is just to chip away at all the ammo. This creates a slippery slope to ban all ammo. If they can ban this for no good reason you know they are going to try to ban all 556 and 223 ammo.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2015, 09:52:15 AM »
Don't tread on me.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2015, 09:56:24 AM »
What the fuck do you need armor piercing bullets for???
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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2015, 09:58:29 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2015, 09:58:35 AM »
What the fuck do you need armor piercing bullets for???

When the cops take over and you become the slave of the state.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2015, 10:06:10 AM »
What the fuck do you need armor piercing bullets for???

For piercing armor...obviously.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2015, 10:07:17 AM »

This is an interesting point of view.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2015, 10:11:10 AM »
This move will have zero impact on gun crime.  It's a political move not a practical or effective strategy to decrease gun violence.   I'm all about what works and this won't do shit

Its not intended to decrease crime lol. Its to protect the police and to increase their power.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2015, 10:22:54 AM »
It's the police that have pushed the gov to do this.  They will be unstoppable.

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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2015, 10:24:43 AM »
Its not intended to decrease crime lol. Its to protect the police and to increase their power.

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Lowering gun violence and that includes violence against police officers is the one of the rationale for the banning.  As I stared before, it's a bunk argument.
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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2015, 10:56:29 AM »
For piercing armor...obviously.

Absolutely. It's helpful in defeating body armor.

Any other dumbass questions, Vince?

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #19 on: March 02, 2015, 11:04:38 AM »
Absolutely. It's helpful in defeating body armor.

Any other dumbass questions, Vince?
He's also neglecting the fact that criminals will also wear body armor as well as police.

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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2015, 11:06:32 AM »
He's also neglecting the fact that criminals will also wear body armor as well as police.

It doesn't matter to me. An enemy is an enemy regardless of whether or not they carry a badge. The state should not have a monopoly on deadly force as they are hardly paragons of virtue.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2015, 11:23:14 AM »
What the fuck do you need armor piercing bullets for???

It does matter you dummy it opens the door to fucking with our rights even more. Next thing will be "well why do you need a 30 round magazine?" Because it's our right to have that best shit we can. Why not have the best tools? None of there buisness.

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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2015, 11:27:22 AM »
I hate guns. How many people die from guns in Japan? Exactly! I hope all guns get banned.

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« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2015, 11:44:48 AM »
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Re: Obama banning AP bullets shows true agenda.
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2015, 11:45:22 AM »
I hate guns. How many people die from guns in Japan? Exactly! I hope all guns get banned.

What's the rate in Finland? Sweden? Etc? It's not the guns, it's that certain folks don't now how to behave with them :).

Anyway, if anything, the ATF just created another "Black Talon" type scare. 99% of the people buying M855 weren't buying it for the AP qualities, they were buying it because it was decent and cheap. Now you've got tons of guys that weren't giving any thought to it rushing out to buy some, and you're getting a ton more people being proactive about their 2nd Amendment rights.

This could stack up to be a double loss for the ATF/Big Gov.