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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2016, 11:34:36 AM »
I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....

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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2016, 11:41:51 AM »
I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....

And would love to see the sniper defeat the guy who pilots a chopper the likes of Air Wolf.

What is the point of your example???
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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2016, 11:52:17 AM »
And would love to see the sniper defeat the guy who pilots a chopper the likes of Air Wolf.

What is the point of your example???

I'd love to see that chopper matched up against a heat seeking missle! ::)

I think my point is obvious, the boxer wins a boxing match against anyone who isnt a boxer (unless it's Lenny McClain because he could've beat a prime Tyson), a strongman wins a strongman contest, an assassin can kill untrained people and so on.

Yes there might be a time that a 50 year old janitor will notice some scribbling on a blackboard at  Havard and quickly realize the error and easily solve the algorithm but usually in life people who are trained in some area are better than those untrained.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2016, 03:10:54 PM »
Man, the Big guy was eating jabs for breakfast, lunch and dinner! ;D
A very large target.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2016, 11:33:41 PM »
Gents, it's a pretty trivial debate, lets not get too excited here. There's no real way of knowing but the point still stands: Eddie Hall's power and explosiveness hasn't carried over into the ring, as he's getting battered in a light sparring match by the boxer - as you would obviously expect; it is no surprise at all which is why i don't get why anyone would think the tables would suddenly turn in a fight without gloves and with no rules; he's going to be getting battered even quicker by a professional fighter, most likely. We aren't talking about him fighting a man on the street. Sure if it goes to the ground then he's going to have an advantage in weight, but he's not a wrestler or MMA fighter, so that is the only advantage he has. I'd still say that he'd end up missing his nose but i'd concede there is a chance that a 310lb untrained guy might end up winning if he's on top of him. i would bet the fight's over before that happened, though.
You keep making the same mistake. Yes, maybe the boxer has more options when the gloves come off and there are no rules. But so does the strongman! Suddenly Hall can clinch like a mofo, can grab any limb that is exposed and fully control the twink. Again: if Hall can use his strength (especially grip) it is lights out for the tiny boxer.

You also coveniently forgot to address the Hoost vs Sapp example.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2016, 12:23:46 AM »
FUCK U EAT SHIT. WAS WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN 4 TWO FUCKING MINUTES: NOTING FUCKEN HAPPEND...

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2016, 01:22:48 AM »
Anything can happen in a fight, but you would usually bet on the trained fighter to win. However, there will come a point where the size and strength difference can overcome the differences in skill. Generally, being bigger and stronger than your opponent is a major advantage in a fight.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2016, 01:58:08 AM »
Sure, i'd agree. I'd bet on the Pro boxer being able to finish Hall pretty quick in a no-rules fight, based on the video, but I'd also agree that Hall is clearly a really big, strong guy which is going to be an advantage if he gets hold of someone and doesn't want to let go. I used to spar heavyweights a lot, and cross-train with a few of them in MMA - when they were at a novice level then they couldn't do anything, no matter the size. But against good heavyweight guys at the same level then i'd be destroyed if i fought them. A well-trained big guy will for the most part, always beat a well-trained little guy, but in the case of weightlifter vs a professional fighter, i'd say that in most instances, the gulf in skill and experience would be a much bigger factor in the outcome than size advantage. A lot would depend on the individual temperaments of the guys too, though. I guess the only way is to have a whip round and see if we can persuade them both to go at it for getbigs amusement.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2016, 04:08:14 AM »
Sure, i'd agree. I'd bet on the Pro boxer being able to finish Hall pretty quick in a no-rules fight, based on the video, but I'd also agree that Hall is clearly a really big, strong guy which is going to be an advantage if he gets hold of someone and doesn't want to let go. I used to spar heavyweights a lot, and cross-train with a few of them in MMA - when they were at a novice level then they couldn't do anything, no matter the size. But against good heavyweight guys at the same level then i'd be destroyed if i fought them. A well-trained big guy will for the most part, always beats a well-trained little guy, but in the case of weightlifter vs a professional fighter, i'd say that in most instances, the gulf in skill and experience would be a much bigger factor in the outcome than size advantage. A lot would depend on the individual temperaments of the guys too, though. I guess the only way is to have a whip-round and see if we can persuade them both to go at it for getbigs amusement.

This is a BB forum. I think most of us will be more interested to see which one wins the real battle - posing on a stage in a shiny thong. :D

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2016, 07:46:51 AM »
I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....
I'd like to see how tough an expert marksman, like Chris Kyle is when a deranged ex-vet with severe PTSD shoots him point blank in the back of the head all because the man was trying to help him.  ;D
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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2016, 07:54:34 AM »
I'd like to see how tough that boxer is when an expert marksman, like the deceased Chris Kyle, snips him out with a head shot from 6000 paces.....

Hell yeah

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2016, 09:52:25 AM »
I'd like to see how tough an expert marksman, like Chris Kyle is when a deranged ex-vet with severe PTSD shoots him point blank in the back of the head all because the man was trying to help him.  ;D

Hahahaha!

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2016, 10:06:28 AM »
are you 5 and 0 brah

It was the "whip round" to organise the fight that I spotted.   ;D

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2016, 11:11:08 AM »
Lots of "big guys" getting upset at the notion that their bulk may not serve them well in a fight

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2016, 11:37:41 AM »
Lots of "big guys" getting upset at the notion that their bulk may not serve them well in a fight

If by "big" you mean overweight than yes, because there's no big weightlifting types on this site bruh.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2016, 11:42:57 AM »
If by "big" you mean overweight than yes, because there's no big weightlifting types on this site bruh.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2016, 12:12:21 PM »
Lots of "big guys" getting upset at the notion that their bulk may not serve them well in a fight

Lots of "tiny tits" getting upset with the reality that extreme mass and strength will almost always trump fanciful technique in a physical altercation.

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2016, 04:25:44 PM »
If we are talking about "street fight" then you have to take into account that both fighters are probably wearing street clothes and possibly even jackets when the fight breaks out.

I didn't watch the video, but the reality probably is that in a street fight they are in very close quarters and the bigger man grabs two handfuls of the boxers clothes, and then the 155 LB dude has got a real problem

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« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2016, 04:39:57 PM »
If we are talking about "street fight" then you have to take into account that both fighters are probably wearing street clothes and possibly even jackets when the fight breaks out.

I didn't watch the video, but the reality probably is that in a street fight they are in very close quarters and the bigger man grabs two handfuls of the boxers clothes, and then the 155 LB dude has got a real problem

Agreed for the most part.

They only problem in your hypothetical scenario is if they 155 lb dude is also an expert in weapon use in close quarters OR if the smaller man is some type of mutant with extendable bones that act as claws and because of his recuperative healing abilities he ends up becoming a government science project and his bones are replace with an unbreakable metal alloy.....

I mean in that situation the big guy is screwed even if its Big Bill Katsmyer with prime Tyson ko power....

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2016, 04:42:11 PM »
Lots of "tiny tits" getting upset with the reality that extreme mass and strength will almost always trump fanciful technique in a physical altercation.

Did you watch the video in the OP?

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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2016, 12:18:41 PM »
Different sports can`t really be compared. Here you have one of the strongest people on the planet losing like a kid next to a armwrestling champ:


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Re: 320lb UK’s Strongest Man Takes On a 140lb Pro Boxer
« Reply #46 on: February 15, 2016, 03:18:32 PM »
There is a difference between power and strength. Power lifting should be called strength lifting. Olympic lifting the real power lifting sport.  I have watched so many  big bench press guys punch the heavy bag with softy punches.  While having strength doesn't mean you have the power. Power is how quickly you can release the strength. How many guys can out jump and out sprint a guy who has a huge squat? While training for strength does increase power something like olympic lifting and sprinting builds power not withstanding innate genetics.