I tried UG eq once and gave up after 8 weeks and 80 cc later. Went with tren and havnt looked back. Was contemplating trying again but.... more threads like this make me say fuck that. Ugls are good for test, deca, tren, dbol,anadrol, winny, npp, and some have decent exotics like your tren suspensions, TNE. If u can't build physque with test, deca and tren your fucked