Author Topic: elbow pain (Read 5005 times)

Mr Anabolic · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2016, 07:30:57 AM »

Quote from: 8 INCH not biceps on July 29, 2016, 02:06:43 PM

If you want to bench more then work on your bench load up the bench and do heavy weight from lockout to half way down then lower the weight and do rest pause on your chest and only go half way up, do this for flat and incline and for your triceps do weighted dips and close grip bench press, you should see a difference within a month.

Are you a Joon gimmick?

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 30, 2016, 08:32:39 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 29, 2016, 06:55:11 AM

I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...

I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...

guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further

^^
NEVER go heavy right away- the tendons, muscles, and the elbow joint all need blood to "lubricate" the area... A few warm up sets for elbows & knees would save people $$$ by their 40's!!!!!!!

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #27 on:** July 30, 2016, 12:09:13 PM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 29, 2016, 01:04:02 PM

pain is where the tricep tendon attaches to the elbow.

This can heal quickly, far faster than the tennisarm. Do other exercises for tri.
Personally, I never had problems with skull crushers, I think they are the best tri mass builder, even though officially an isolation exercise. After a period of not training and starting again, the poundages on skulls increase extremely quickly. Too bad so many people have problems from them. Same goes for wide grip upright rows, terrific. Use straps on these, though. Friend of mine got a tennis elbow from upright rows...

says dr Dutch

judochoke · « **Reply #28 on:** July 30, 2016, 12:22:29 PM »

big judochoke practicing what he preaches

judochoke · « **Reply #29 on:** July 30, 2016, 12:24:13 PM »

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #30 on:** July 30, 2016, 12:46:56 PM »

Judoshake, I will give you the benefit of the young-and-starting GB poster.
But: youtube stuff should be embedded.
Getbiggers do not trust links......they are paranoid about that.
Ok, now this is what is and will be.....

says Dr Dutch

Thin Lizzy · « **Reply #31 on:** July 30, 2016, 01:27:21 PM »

All Tricep extension movements are done from a position of poor leverage and put a lot of stress on the fulcrum which, in this case, is the elbow joint.

The best option is a push down movement as it doesn't have momentum increasing the downward force and putting even more stress on the elbows.

NaturalWonder83 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 30, 2016, 01:44:19 PM »

Your tricep is very tight and u probably lack full extension of the elbow-the ability to fully straighten and lock out your elbow-thus your elbow is forced to compensate for the tricep and your probably limited shoulder range of motion
It's like u are walking on your hands with bent elbows all the time

Go to a barbell and bend your arm like at the bottom of a chin up
Drive the area of your tricep right by your elbow into the barbell as hard as u can and then work on opening and extending and closing your elbow on the barbell,as hard as u can with as much pressure , like u r doing a bicep curl-also work on smashing your tricep side to side on the bottom with the elbow extended with as much pressure as u can-do not let your shoulder rise up

I 150% guarantee u this will help u and clear up the issues
Do this everyday for 5 mins per arm

_bruce_ · « **Reply #33 on:** July 30, 2016, 01:50:03 PM »

Quote from: NaturalWonder83 on July 30, 2016, 01:44:19 PM

Your tricep is very tight and u probably lack full extension of the elbow-the ability to fully straighten and lock out your elbow-thus your elbow is forced to compensate for the tricep and your probably limited shoulder range of motion
It's like u are walking on your hands with bent elbows all the time

Go to a barbell and bend your arm like at the bottom of a chin up
Drive the area of your tricep right by your elbow into the barbell as hard as u can and then work on opening and extending and closing your elbow on the barbell,as hard as u can with as much pressure , like u r doing a bicep curl-also work on smashing your tricep side to side on the bottom with the elbow extended with as much pressure as u can-do not let your shoulder rise up

I 150% guarantee u this will help u and clear up the issues
Do this everyday for 5 mins per arm

Rambone · « **Reply #34 on:** July 31, 2016, 05:02:40 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 29, 2016, 06:55:11 AM

I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...

I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...

guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further

Avoid exercises that hurt your elbow, wear sleeves to keep your elbows warm and provide extra support, warm up thoroughly before you lift, and use ice after workouts

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #35 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:43:16 AM »

Quote from: judochoke on July 30, 2016, 12:22:29 PM

big judochoke practicing what he preaches

very bad form

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #36 on:** July 31, 2016, 11:50:10 AM »

Quote from: judochoke on July 30, 2016, 12:22:29 PM

big judochoke practicing what he preaches

Put a cargo strap around your arms, about 10" between your elbows, and lets see how many proper extensions you can make with that weight...

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #37 on:** July 31, 2016, 01:32:43 PM »

Jim Wendler said guys generally do too much direct tricep work.
Presses for chest and delts and dips are enough for triceps. Doing more results in elbow problems.

If anyone has advice for persistent bicep tendonitis let me know. Can't even curl 5lbs without pain. Eating curcumin and cissus. Hasn't helped. Eccentric work?

DroppingPlates · « **Reply #38 on:** July 31, 2016, 01:38:46 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 31, 2016, 01:32:43 PM

If anyone has advice for persistent bicep tendonitis let me know.

Deep tissue massage or ART? (no homo)

MAXX · « **Reply #39 on:** September 25, 2016, 06:22:21 AM »

this motherf**** still giving me a hard time and ive not done direct triceps work for a month

like coach said tendinitis.

can I shoot some antiinflammatory in there to make it heal faster?

Pete Nice · « **Reply #40 on:** September 25, 2016, 06:27:50 AM »

I had elbow pain for a few years. The only thing that worked for me was buying a chin up bar or using the chin-up bar at my gym and doing dead hangs for 45 seconds before and after my workouts. I'm not smart enough to explain the logistics behind how or why this worked, but it did. I realize it sounds too simple, but to take 90 seconds out of your day to try this shouldn't be much of a burden. This was truly the best thing I ever tried regarding getting over my elbow pain, and it worked rather quickly. I would say I felt better in less than a month of trying this.

Eric2 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 25, 2016, 06:34:02 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on September 25, 2016, 06:22:21 AM

this motherf**** still giving me a hard time and ive not done direct triceps work for a month

like coach said tendinitis.

can I shoot some antiinflammatory in there to make it heal faster?

Read my post earlier in this thread. You have nothing to lose but maybe a few dollars. It worked very well for my tennis elbow, as well as other joint pain. I have had many people tell me likewise after they start on it as well.

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #42 on:** September 25, 2016, 06:43:17 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 29, 2016, 06:55:11 AM

I have been doing alot of extra tricep work to try progress in my pressing movements. It seemed to help for a while but now as result
I'vestarted to get elbow pain...

I Always get this joint/tendon inflamation when I overwork... sucks because I would be alot stronger if it didnt prevent me...

guess steroids is the only solution if I want to progress further

^^
I got bad tendonitis in my right elbow from doing straight barbell Skull-Crushers, when I switched to EZ-Curl bar, it just went away...

falco · « **Reply #43 on:** September 25, 2016, 07:08:05 AM »

Diclofenac works wonders in my tendons. Dont shoot it in the area though, just gluteshots.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #44 on:** September 25, 2016, 07:14:54 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on September 25, 2016, 06:22:21 AM

this motherf**** still giving me a hard time and ive not done direct triceps work for a month

like coach said tendinitis.

can I shoot some antiinflammatory in there to make it heal faster?

Use bands and do light tricep work with high reps - 50 to 300(every second day). Do not go heavy in any way or form. As an addon you can try eating "organic" gelatin(the one used for cooking for example). Japanese Karatekas use(d) to eat pig feet for the gelatin.

OB1 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 25, 2016, 07:20:58 AM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on September 25, 2016, 06:43:17 AM

... EZ-Curl bar...

This.

Tapeworm · « **Reply #46 on:** September 25, 2016, 08:54:29 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 31, 2016, 01:32:43 PM

Jim Wendler said guys generally do too much direct tricep work.
Presses for chest and delts and dips are enough for triceps. Doing more results in elbow problems.

If anyone has advice for persistent bicep tendonitis let me know. Can't even curl 5lbs without pain. Eating curcumin and cissus. Hasn't helped. Eccentric work?

Curls are the only movement I can't drop set without problems. Any kind, sooner or later - elbow pain.

Always goes away. Hope yours has by now.

Erik C · « **Reply #47 on:** September 25, 2016, 05:55:18 PM »

Skull Crushers on a Flat Bench, with an EZ curl bar, focuses on the Long Head of the triceps, the Medial and Lateral Heads just act as stabilizers. Unfortunately, that puts enormous pressure on your Anconeous Muscle (The often ignored, other elbow extensor) leading to elbow pain. Better to do Skull Crushers on a Decline Bench, with an EZ Curl Bar. In that position, all three heads of the Triceps work very hard, and give the Anconeous some help/rest.

Erik C · « **Reply #48 on:** September 26, 2016, 01:34:33 PM »

It's bad for the elbow joint to do bi and tri exercises incorrectly. Yet is is bad for the elbow joint, if all that you do, are bi and tri exercises, even if you do them correctly. The elbows also rotate around the joint. With out doing exercises for that elbow function, correctly, you are creating muscle imbalances relating to the elbow joints. The tri and bi muscle get strong, and the rotational muscle movements don't. Use it or lose, as in injure it.

Concentrating only on big lifts, and the bigger muscles, is a common error that lifters make, whether for muscle strength, or muscle size.

honest · « **Reply #49 on:** September 26, 2016, 08:16:20 PM »

Hurt my right elbow 6-12 months ago, been trying all types of rehab, finally decided back to the dark side, two weeks of organon deca at 50mg a week from the doc and its getting better, hate admitting it but the healing properties are to good to ignore downside is the few lbs that come with it, hopefully when I stop in a few weeks it wont come back,and I can drop the few unwanted lbs, its a pretty low dose, bit ironic being on getbig while trying to get smaller but late 40s leave the big game for the young guys.