Lee Haney had the right approach!

[Simple Simon]

I never understand why bodybuilders stuff themselves with carbs its not needed, your body use carbs for energy and its stored in your muscles as glycogen for future use so you dont need an excessive amount, you should be taking in lots of protein, vegetables and healthy fats because that is what the body uses to repair itself.

If you read Disgusteds post above yours you should be able to work it out you dumb fucker.

[8 INCH not biceps]

One of the reasons why I don't agree with the  "calorie is a calorie" people. It's just too hard to diet on high carb.

Dieting on high carbs wont work unless you have a fast metabolism if not you will hold a lot of water and look smooth and bloated, your diet should consist of high protein and vegetables medium healthy fats and carbs and some saturated fats and if your metabolism is very slow then low carbs, I personally would avoid wheat as a carbs source and use instead potatoes,yam, brown rice  old fashion oats and quinoa.

[Simple Simon]

Dieting on high carbs wont work unless you have a fast metabolism if not you will hold a lot of water and look smooth and bloated, your diet should consist of high protein and vegetables medium healthy fats and carbs and some saturated fats and if your metabolism is very slow then low carbs, I personally would avoid wheat as a carbs source and use instead potatoes,yam, brown rice  old fashion oats and quinoa.

highest metabolism and slowest metabolism will vary by around 600 calories.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

anyone weight 230lb lean tissue and eating over 5000 cals is going to get fat real quick, unless they are doing lots of cardio.
the body cant process food that fast, you would just get fat and have huge shits.

This^^^Sure the amounts of HGH they take daily has changed the game quite a bit on the amount of cals they can now take in compared to the 70's,80's and even 90's but they are not eating 5000+cals leading up to a show. It's 3000 to 4500. And it's only that much because of the amount of HGH/Slin they use. Drop those two things out of their daily activity and they are dieting no different than the guys from the 70's-80's. Which is anything from 1000-2500cals.

[ratherbebig]

im not gonna read 4 pages but i have this to say

lee haney is a good man, he's a honest man and he's a godfearing man.

i have nothing but praise and admiration for him.

[The Scott]

im not gonna read 4 pages but i have this to say

lee haney is a good man, he's a honest man and he's a godfearing man.

i have nothing but praise and admiration for him.

I have read all four pages but I have this to say -Lee Haney is just a man, he's a liar and if he lived his "faith" he would never have taken the drugs.  And on top of that who cares what deity he may or may not fear.

I have nothing but don't-give-an-intercourse-for-him.


Here to provide the balance that is the truth.  He was as much a worthless, lying, druggie as any other Mr. Olympia. 

[ratherbebig]

do not be jealous

[8 INCH not biceps]

highest metabolism and slowest metabolism will vary by around 600 calories.

Sounds like you pulled that number out of your butthole which jacking off to bob paris posing, calories is not that important what is important is the amount of carbs you stuff into your body, too much and your body stores it as fat, its better to lower the carbs and take in protein, vegetables and healthy fats, remember that when you go to the gym you damage your muscle and the body needs protein vitamins and minerals to repair, carbs dont build muscle it just gives you energy.

[Simple Simon]

Sounds like you pulled that number out of your butthole which jacking off to bob paris posing, calories is not that important what is important is the amount of carbs you stuff into your body, too much and your body stores it as fat, its better to lower the carbs and take in protein, vegetables and healthy fats, remember that when you go to the gym you damage your muscle and the body needs protein vitamins and minerals to repair, carbs dont build muscle it just gives you energy.

too much of anything and your body stores it as fat.


By the way, I thought it was you trolling us?

[Danimal77]

Lee haney completed at 245 and weighed 260 in the off season so he kept very close to his contest weight and was always in shape, these days you have bodybuilders who complete at 250 and weighs 300 pounds in the off season, I think in this age there is an obsession with 300 pounds, I have gotten obsessed with that weight myself and I am stuffing myself with food to get there you can call it bigorexia I guess.

Haney competed in his 250's several times (259 being his highest Mr. O bodyweight in 1991 I believe) and his offseason weight was 260-265 pounds, so yes, he didn't stray very far at all from his competition weight.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Haney competed in his 250's several times (259 being his highest Mr. O bodyweight in 1991 I believe) and his offseason weight was 260-265 pounds, so yes, he didn't stray very far at all from his competition weight.

He was 249lbs in 1991. He did compete in 1989 at 257lbs and admittedly was to big and his condition suffered for it

[FREAKgeek]

Dieting on high carbs wont work unless you have a fast metabolism if not you will hold a lot of water and look smooth and bloated, your diet should consist of high protein and vegetables medium healthy fats and carbs and some saturated fats and if your metabolism is very slow then low carbs, I personally would avoid wheat as a carbs source and use instead potatoes,yam, brown rice  old fashion oats and quinoa.

Oh I know. It's more than caloric restriction if you want good body composition.

[Danimal77]

He was 249lbs in 1991. He did compete in 1989 at 257lbs and admittedly was to big and his condition suffered for it

I wasn't sure which year it was that he came in close to 260 pounds. Thanks for clarifying ;-)

Interesting to note that he was a mere 230 pounds at his first Mr. O in 1983.

[NarcissisticDeity]

I wasn't sure which year it was that he came in close to 260 pounds. Thanks for clarifying ;-)

Interesting to note that he was a mere 230 pounds at his first Mr. O in 1983.

And then his first win he was 240lbs

[oldtimer1]

i ate 800 calories per day for 2 weeks straight and my bodyfat went down from 12% to 7.5% and i lost 7.5 pounds of fat and only 1.5 pounds of muscle in this 2 week period and this was without gear

That is amazing and I commend your effort. What method did you use to determine body fat?

[dj181]

That is amazing and I commend your effort. What method did you use to determine body fat?

thanks man

it was determined by using the jackson pollock 3 site skinfold method

the guy who took my folds always got me fatter than others who did it coz he did it aggressively by takng deep folds (no homo 😆)