Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?

[Palpatine Q]

Yes McGuire was a steroid using phoney too. The difference is Barry Bonds from 1986 on has went out of his way to alienate fans, opposing players, teamates, it seems even his own employees and people in his personal life. he is a VERY hard guy to root for. Thats why he and the liar Palmiero are really catching shit. the guys who came clean like Giambi, Canseco, Caminiti didn't catch nearly the heat as Bond's.

Agreed. Where you and I differ is to me it is meaningless that Bonds is an asshole. Is he more guilty of juicing because he's a douche? that's ludicrous.

[pumpster]

Ya, he IS more guilty-of being a turd in the court of public opinion. Steroid guilt is almost secondary now.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Barry Bonds doesnt work hard on defense?What an ahole!!The guy has won 8 freaking golden gloves!!!!Thats 8 golden gloves!!!!!Funny,that a guy who doesnt play defense can fool people into giving him gold gloves.This spring he is trying to rehab his knee.Do you know ANYTHING about being injured??Im sure you dont or you wouldnt question Bonds' work ethic.His workouts are legend and YES NO ONE WORKS harder in the off season!!!Thats how he was able to build his body into a 73,700+ home run hitting machine.Wake up!!!!Listen,try and do some research before you post stupid ass comments.The guy has won 7 MVPs 4 more then anyone else in history.They dont hand those out to guys that dont play defense.As guys get older,their defensive skills diminish.

At this point I pity you. It's sad, but also funny.

Here is a quote from Pete Rose on Barry Bonds, just for your viewing pleasure.

"It will take him two more years and he will have to be lucky in terms of no injuries...but how is he going to get hurt? He only trots. He doesn't play defense anymore, he can't throw, and he can't run. How's he going to get hurt? How's he going to pull a muscle?"
--Rose, on Barry Bonds' chances of breaking Hank Aaron's all-time home runs record

And here is the link, it's from Baseball Prospectus, maybe you've heard of it.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=3479

Let me type this really slow so you can understand it. Bonds won 4 of his MVP's AFTER he started juicing. Get it? After he chemically enhanced himself.

Oh, and shock of all shockers Bonds hasn't won a Gold Glove since 1998. Gee, I wonder if that's when he started juicing?

Perhaps you should take a little of your own advice and do a little research and learn exact facts before you start spewing your idiocy.

Bonds WAS (as in past tense) the best player in the MLB along with Junior Griffey. Those days are long gone, all he cares about now is offense.

Please don't stop posting your moronic posts though, it is entertaining in the extreme to see you put your 3rd grade rationale to work.

One last point, why is he rehabbing his knee when it was rehabbed last year? Didn't he return last season? Why does the knee need to be rehabbed again?

[pumpster]

When Rose can criticize, you're basically at the bottom of the barrel..

[BM OUT]

His knee is NOT 100%,thats why he is rehabbing it.Let me ask you this.Bernie Williams of the Yankees was once one of,if not THE best fefensive fielder in the American league.How many gold gloves has he won recently[in fact he will almost exclusively dh this year].Griffey junior was one of if not the best outfielders in baseball as well,he hasnt won a gold glove in years.As guys get older,they slow down and can no longer make the plays they used to.Why would I expect a 36-41 year old man to be as effective in the outfield as he was when he was twenty five?Bonds is a hitter now,as most aging guys are,hence why so many become DHs at the end of their career.Again,Bonds won three MVPs BEFORE steroids.Please list the many guys that won more then that.You can argue untill your blue in the face,Bonds is the greatest baseball player over the last twenty years,steroids or no steroids....Ive had three knee operations[Im rehabbing from a pattellat tendon rupture and broken knee cap now]so please,dont tell me about the length of time for rehabbing,especially after a seroius infection.

[bmacsys]

His knee is NOT 100%,thats why he is rehabbing it.Let me ask you this.Bernie Williams of the Yankees was once one of,if not THE best fefensive fielder in the American league.How many gold gloves has he won recently[in fact he will almost exclusively dh this year].Griffey junior was one of if not the best outfielders in baseball as well,he hasnt won a gold glove in years.As guys get older,they slow down and can no longer make the plays they used to.Why would I expect a 36-41 year old man to be as effective in the outfield as he was when he was twenty five?Bonds is a hitter now,as most aging guys are,hence why so many become DHs at the end of their career.Again,Bonds won three MVPs BEFORE steroids.Please list the many guys that won more then that.You can argue untill your blue in the face,Bonds is the greatest baseball player over the last twenty years,steroids or no steroids....Ive had three knee operations[Im rehabbing from a pattellat tendon rupture and broken knee cap now]so please,dont tell me about the length of time for rehabbing,especially after a seroius infection.

Bernie never deserved a gold glove with that cream puff arm of his. Last year the poor guy couldn't even judge a fly ball. And yes I am a Yankee fan my whole life. The DH sucks plain and simple. If you can't play the field you should be out of the game.

[bmacsys]

Agreed. Where you and I differ is to me it is meaningless that Bonds is an asshole. Is he more guilty of juicing because he's a douche? that's ludicrous.

Groink, my point is people are going to come down harder on him because he has acted like a dick his whole career. not that what he did was any worse than any of the other MLB roid monkeys.

[bmacsys]

When Rose can criticize, you're basically at the bottom of the barrel..

True, Rose is trailer park trash. He just happened to be a helluva baseball player and the ultimate competitor. He was so competetive he went over the line. Like when he ruined ray Fosse's career in a meaningless play.

[pumpster]

Where you and I differ is to me it is meaningless that Bonds is an asshole. Is he more guilty of juicing because he's a douche? that's ludicrous.

You're missing it-that's just you and your warped view; what's ludicrous is that you don't get that you're the minority. Deal with it. Bonds is a DINK and that matters in the context he's currently in.

[ieffinhatecardio]

His knee is NOT 100%,thats why he is rehabbing it.Let me ask you this.Bernie Williams of the Yankees was once one of,if not THE best fefensive fielder in the American league.How many gold gloves has he won recently[in fact he will almost exclusively dh this year].Griffey junior was one of if not the best outfielders in baseball as well,he hasnt won a gold glove in years.As guys get older,they slow down and can no longer make the plays they used to.Why would I expect a 36-41 year old man to be as effective in the outfield as he was when he was twenty five?Bonds is a hitter now,as most aging guys are,hence why so many become DHs at the end of their career.Again,Bonds won three MVPs BEFORE steroids.Please list the many guys that won more then that.You can argue untill your blue in the face,Bonds is the greatest baseball player over the last twenty years,steroids or no steroids....Ive had three knee operations[Im rehabbing from a pattellat tendon rupture and broken knee cap now]so please,dont tell me about the length of time for rehabbing,especially after a seroius infection.

Didn't you just spew on about how incredible he was as a defender? Yet now you're saying he's too old to play defense. Which is it? Didn't I mention multiple times about how Bonds cares only about offense now and here you are saying the exact same thing.

I was hoping you were going to continue with your sad little display of hero worship.

Bonds was once the best player in baseball, but those days are long gone. Your hero worship is misguided at best and pathetic at worst.

Oh and if I had to chose between either Bonds in his prime or Griffey Junior in his prime I'd pick Griffey. I'm not saying he was much better than Bonds but to me his game was unparalleled, except for running the bases.

Watching Griffey Junior in his prime was pretty exciting. He was truly gifted.

[buffalo]

Sorry,I root for guys who work hard and there is no one who works harder then Bonds.

Poor Barry...he's worked ever so hard..damn his whole life has been like working in a coal mine or something.  Why is everyone against Barry..he's such a good guy.  So talented and he can hit all those amazing homeruns..what a champ!! Some people call him a cheater and a liar and a wimp, and say that he wouldn't be a homerun king without the juice but I say who cares about all of that. I mean we all need a hero and I'm tired of looking for one, so I guess Barry "WAAAH WAAAH" Bonds will have to be it   

[Palpatine Q]

You're missing it-that's just you and your warped view; what's ludicrous is that you don't get that you're the minority. Deal with it. Bonds is a DINK and that matters in the context he's currently in.

Warped?   Holy crap. Because I don't have to like somebody personally to appreciate what they do? If you were having surgery would you insist on having a nice surgeon or a really good one?

[Wombat]

His knee is NOT 100%,thats why he is rehabbing it.Let me ask you this.Bernie Williams of the Yankees was once one of,if not THE best fefensive fielder in the American league.How many gold gloves has he won recently[in fact he will almost exclusively dh this year].Griffey junior was one of if not the best outfielders in baseball as well,he hasnt won a gold glove in years.As guys get older,they slow down and can no longer make the plays they used to.Why would I expect a 36-41 year old man to be as effective in the outfield as he was when he was twenty five?Bonds is a hitter now,as most aging guys are,hence why so many become DHs at the end of their career.Again,Bonds won three MVPs BEFORE steroids.Please list the many guys that won more then that.You can argue untill your blue in the face,Bonds is the greatest baseball player over the last twenty years,steroids or no steroids....Ive had three knee operations[Im rehabbing from a pattellat tendon rupture and broken knee cap now]so please,dont tell me about the length of time for rehabbing,especially after a seroius infection.

actually he won 3 MVPs before GH and slin...Not steroids...Do you really think that Bonds jumped right into Growth-slin-t3 and gear right off the bat...Gear has been around well into the 80s in the pros...IN 1985 their were a couple of guys i knew in high school that used some test and anadrol..They were two and three sport players at the time and used during the football and baseball season....If high school kids were taking stuff back then, you can bet your ass the pros were...Bonds weight gain took off from the slin...My guess is that he had been taking gear for a long time...Canseco likes to say that he was the one that brought it into baseball...Thats a bold face lie...The shit was flying around well before him...Like i stated before it was in the high schools...is he gonna tell us all that he is responsible for that also...Steroids were rampand down the southern states in out west in the 80s in sports..When the 90s came around even some kids in Jr. high knew about them...We are all supposed to believe that the pros weren't really taking them until the late 90s...That is just funny to me...Hell John McCanro admitted to steroid use well over a decade ago....

[DIVISION]

You're missing it-that's just you and your warped view; what's ludicrous is that you don't get that you're the minority. Deal with it. Bonds is a DINK and that matters in the context he's currently in.

Stop acting like such a bitter bitch.....

We know you don't like Barry Bonds.  We get it.

Move on.





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[The RedMeatKid]

If that's the case, why didn't Mcgwire just come clean at the hearings? According to you he's done nothing wrong. Because it's not true. Steroids have been a contolled substance for 20+ years and it's illegal to take them. He was breaking the law. Add to that the fact that taking steroids is considered being the worst kind of cheater there is. And really...what does someone's demeanor have to do with anything? They are both equally culpable for their actions.

Yes that is correct. Steroids are illegal.