2020 Excess Mortality Data.

[Straw Man]

The CDC admitted itself that 94% of people dying, had 2-3 comorbidities each, on average.  These are literally THE most unhealthy people in the population who are dying.  We're shutting down Western Civilization for the super elderly, and frail drugs addicts, who were going to die anyway.  And I'm not saying "let them die" - I'm saying that far more people are going to die if we literally close down the entire economy, lock people in their homes, and prevent social interaction, even to the point of having socially distanced funerals.

More people died this year because it was a bad flu season combined with all the drug overdoses and suicides and everything else that COVID measures caused [people not going to hospitals to deal with heart attacks and strokes, missing cancer screening tests out of fear of getting COVID, etc].  When you tell people there is a global plague going on that isn't going on, they will just stay home and take their chances with cancer.

And die.  And that's exactly what happened.  And that's EXACTLY what the CDC statistics bear out when you consider the deaths of people who died WITH COVID, and not OF COVID.

The 6% figure may be a bit higher...as I can't rule out pneumonia or lung cancer as having been caused by COVID...but let's say the REAL figure is 12% of "COVID deaths" are actual COVID deaths.  Ok...so the USA had 30,000 excess deaths this year?    Yeah, real scary plague.

As there will be NO WAY to hide the reality of the death figures without resorting to complete fraud [autistic White math guys like myself will sort right through that garbage in literal minutes], there will be no way to prevent the truth from coming out, later this year.  Short of simply hiding the statistics - which is what Canada and France do with race-based crime statistics for example.

Of course when you know the data doesn't fit your argument, you just hide the data.  I don't need to do that though, which is why voices like mine will be snuffed out [attempts will be made, anyway].  But we literally only need 1-5% of the population to be like me to spread around the truth.

Take you for example - you know longer think COVID is a big plague, as you see the narrative collapse around you.  Much like a FOX News viewer saw with George Bush Jr.'s "Weapons of Mass Destruction" lie about Iraq and Saddam Hussein.  Yet you still hold onto your shite view for some reason.    You just need to let it go, and accept reality on this one.  Soon, lots of people you know will go bankrupt, and lose their jobs, while you will be scrounging to count the number of people you know on one hand who even HAD COVID.

Remember in the trailer for "I Love You Man" when Lou Ferrigno was laying waste to one of those Judd Apatow actors?

And then Lou was like "Just go with it...oh, and that'll be $20."

You need to do this.

Allow yourself to be red-pilled in real time.  It's honestly worth it to maintain your own intellectual integrity even for yourself.  Why lie to yourself? 

 

irrelevant

the co-morbidities didn't kill them in a matter or weeks.   That was COVID

they still  died from COVID and we do in fact have excess deaths due to COVID

BTW - one of the big co-morbidity factors is obesity.   There is no shortage of obese people in this country which may be why we have more COVID deaths per capita than any other country on the planet

[Matt]

So you disagree with the CDC and have  decided to believe  story from a right wing website no one has ever heard of that cites a study that no one can find

Meanwhile we see stories from all over the country of overwhelmed hospitals. 
If there is no excess death then why are hospitals lying about all these overwhelmed ICU's and parking lots full of refrigerator trucks.  Does that happen every year and they just suddenly decided to start reporting it this year?

Same reason why NY State Andrew Cuomo lied about needing 26,000 ventilators.  Ventilators cost $50,000 to $100,000 each, so Cuomo saw it as a chance for his failed state to get $1.3B to $2.6B in free ventilators.

People like when $2,000,000,000+ is on the line.

Yeah, just like all those burial services I saw with multiple people in Hazmat suits employed as gravediggers.  This wasn't a massive propaganda campaign from start to finish or anything:

[Matt]

irrelevant

the co-morbidities didn't kill them in a matter or weeks.   That was COVID

they still  died from COVID and we do in fact have excess deaths due to COVID

BTW - one of the big co-morbidity factors is obesity.   There is no shortage of obese people in this country which may be why we have more COVID deaths per capita than any other country on the planet

It's looking like, yes, these people were dying anyway.

As I said, this will all come out with the excess deaths.  See...I've already changed your position from thinking COVID was Ebola, to you acknowledging that it's barely worse than a bad flu season.  You went back five years to see if it was worse than any of those years?  Haha, epic once-in-a-century plague!!

See - you're already coming around to the truth without even seeing it, but you make yourself look dumber and dumber by just not accepting you've been conned, and moving on.  Why shoot the messenger?  Mass media, mostly liberal, lied to you about the extent and scale/spread of COVID [the actual threat level], and you're more upset with me for posting the actual facts than you are about people who lied to you and said we were in some scary global pandemic, which, after nearly a YEAR of this now, we conclusively are NOT.

So 1 in 1,000 additional Americans died this year - BIG DEAL.  Do you have any idea how many will die because of the economic devastation this has caused, the near certain destruction of the SME sector, the consolidation of power in the hands of global billionaires, and what could happen if China continues to spread its power and influence globally, while the USA sits back and takes whatever China gives it?

You already ALLOWED this alleged "pandemic" to get into your country because you were too afraid to close borders with China out of fear of being called "racist".  It's YOU who thinks this a scary plague, yet it's also YOU who didn't listen to people like ME and close the damn borders in the first place until we figured this out.

So now you have this allegedly scary plague, because you didn't want to be called "racist".

How's that working out for you?

[Straw Man]

It's looking like, yes, these people were dying anyway.

As I said, this will all come out with the excess deaths.  See...I've already changed your position from thinking COVID was Ebola, to you acknowledging that it's barely worse than a bad flu season.  You went back five years to see if it was worse than any of those years?  Haha, epic once-in-a-century plague!!

See - you're already coming around to the truth without even seeing it, but you make yourself look dumber and dumber by just not accepting you've been conned, and moving on.  Why shoot the messenger?  Mass media, mostly liberal, lied to you about the extent and scale/spread of COVID [the actual threat level], and you're more upset with me for posting the actual facts than you are about people who lied to you and said we were in some scary global pandemic, which, after nearly a YEAR of this now, we conclusively are NOT.

So 1 in 1,000 additional Americans died this year - BIG DEAL.  Do you have any idea how many will die because of the economic devastation this has caused, the near certain destruction of the SME sector, the consolidation of power in the hands of global billionaires, and what could happen if China continues to spread its power and influence globally, while the USA sits back and takes whatever China gives it.

You already ALLOWED this alleged "pandemic" to get into your country because you were too afraid to close borders with China out of fear of being called "racist".  It's YOU who thinks this a scary plague, yet it's also YOU who didn't listen to people like ME and close the damn borders in the first place until we figured this out.

So now you have this allegedly scary plague, because you didn't want to be called "racist".

How's that working out for you?

So you're suggesting that our ICU's would have been filled up this year from people dying in droves in a matter of weeks from "obesity" "asthma" etc...

BTW - the Cuomo claim is just more right wing media bullshit

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/01/fact-check-does-new-york-have-stockpile-unneeded-ventilators/5097170002/

[Matt]

tricked again by right wing media lies (I know that's redundant)

Here you go: https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/johns-hopkins-covid-mortality-study-briand-15764249.php

Johns Hopkins University is "sweeping the right-wing media ecosystem"? 

Johns Hopkins University is part of the right-wing now? 

I can honestly say I've lived to see the day where, without any doubt, I can explain why those of us on the right say "Liberalism is a mental disorder."

[Matt]

So you're suggesting that our ICU's would have been filled up this year from people dying in droves in a matter of weeks from "obesity" "asthma" etc...

BTW - the Cuomo claim is just more right wing media bullshit

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/01/fact-check-does-new-york-have-stockpile-unneeded-ventilators/5097170002/

Are you the dumbest shit on the planet?  I didn't say anything about Trump following through with Cuomo's petulant demand for more ventilators...I said that he ASKED for them, and stated they were needed, and even put Trump's ethics on display by stating that Trump should personally pick the 26,000 people who would die, who DIDN'T DIE.

Cuomo's reasoning for needing ventilators didn't even make sense - so he thought there would be this big spike of 26,000 deaths, and then BOOM, virus just goes away forever?  Right, that makes sense with anything consistent in the history of medicine or virology. 

Oh...look at this from nine hours ago...Cuomo is such a nice guy!

https://nypost.com/2021/01/03/gov-cuomo-wont-get-covid-19-vaccine-until-everyone-his-age-can

[Al Doggity]

There was a Johns Hopkins study on death in the US in 2020.  It factually showed the death rate in the US didn't change because of covid. It stayed relatively the same. After the study hit the internet it was deleted and the university disavowed the study burying it and I wonder what fate the person who wrote has met.  It was written by Genevieve Briand, assistant program director of the Applied Economics at Johns Hopkins. Why would they fight so hard to scub this off of a google search and try to discredit the results.  If 200K died in the US from covid wouldn't it be reflected in a ten year trend of deaths?  No 2019 and 2020 had relatively the same death rate from all causes.

I looked this up because I knew there had to be more to this and, of course, there was.

Firstly, the article is super easy to find.  It wasn't a John's Hopkins study, it was an article that was posted in the student run John Hopkins Newsletter. They explain why they removed it from the newsletter (it wasn't correctly peer reviewed, some things were inaccurate among other things), but they also link directly to it in the explanation. There hasn't been an attempt to scrub it from the internet.

explanation here:
https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/12/on-the-retraction-of-a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-and-our-coverage-of-covid-19

original article here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Tnb1a8TXHj_jJCM2BDfGSriUgdn-2gec/view

[Al Doggity]

So...basically 1 in 1,000 additional people died in 2020?

NOBODY would even notice that - let alone that number be high enough to classify any of this as a "global pandemic".

The fact that there was any increase at all is wild considering most of the country was significantly shut down for most of the year.

The warnings of covid weren't just its mortality rate, but the fact that they it put strain on hospital resources. Everyone who needed medical treatment didn't die.

[Matt]

The fact that there was any increase at all is wild considering most of the country was significantly shut down for most of the year.

The warnings of covid weren't just its mortality rate, but the fact that they it put strain on hospital resources. Everyone who needed medical treatment didn't die.

Meanwhile, normal seasonal flu deaths didn't go down.  Weird, with all the lockdowns and social distancing and masks and everything, that that would be the case.  And as the months go on now, we will get a better idea of the impact.  I do love how everyone somehow knew how this would pan out, before it even started.    I personally said from the start that I would need two years of data before making any claims with any significant level of certainty.  And NO ONE can claim anything otherwise.  We're just surrounded by egotistical "experts" who want their 15 minutes of fame.

Anyway, here is a study about lack of excess mortality:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

This one...I'll need to check out later:

https://www.academia.edu/44590526/Performing_the_Lockstep_Scenario_act_through_fake_COVID_19_Pandemic_is_a_crime_against_humanity_and_unless_We_The_People_punish_the_perpetrators_the_civilized_world_risks_self_annihilation_preemptive_Nuremberg_2_0_is_a_must

^ You need to do a full cost/benefit analysis like that to see the true impact of COVID.

Al Doggity...do you care to comment on this one?  I'm curious what your views are on this one - especially if "diversity" mandates give the new vaccine to Blacks first.  Do you want to be a guinea pig for this?  What is this?  Look at the picture of that swab:

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/11/25/theragripper-gi-tract-medicine-delivery

Once again *conspiracy theory video ahead*...this one is more conspiratorial than the Roadmap For the Agenda video I posted from Computing Forever:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NJFz4TYgvCv2

Anyway, I'm open to hearing more information regarding numbers of deaths and so on...but certain things cannot be refuted, such as average age of death [84.8 - oooh, really scary!!!], and the fact that 87% of deaths are among people over 80, and 94% of people had comorbidities.

Furthermore, even if 10x the number of people die, this would only MAYBE approach the mortality it was originally claimed to be.

[Matt]

In London, yesterday.  Lovely...Marshall Law - just in case you get the sniffles!

[Matt]

irrelevant

the co-morbidities didn't kill them in a matter or weeks.   That was COVID

they still  died from COVID and we do in fact have excess deaths due to COVID

BTW - one of the big co-morbidity factors is obesity.   There is no shortage of obese people in this country which may be why we have more COVID deaths per capita than any other country on the planet

Out of curiosity [and without asking you the relationships you have with those people], how many people do you know who have died of COVID?  I know zero - in fact, I know zero people who have had COVID.  We've had two deaths in my city.  Epic plague! 

[Moontrane]

Matt, I had the worst thing to ever happen in my life this year when my lovely mother passed away at the end of May. I want to be clear her death was of cancer and had nothing to do with Covid. What covid did do was make it very hard to see my mum and that has left my sister and me incandescent with rage at the way this scam has played out. I welcome your posts and your common sense, I just wish more people could see what a joke this whole thing is. Everywhere you look in the MSM FEAR FEAR FEAR. All designed to sell product and terrify the population into total submission. Unfortunately it seems to be working by and large with small pockets of resistance that get arrested if they take to the streets and heckled by idiots if they speak out on the Internet.

Sorry for your loss, friend.

[Al Doggity]

Anyway, here is a study about lack of excess mortality:

https://web.archive.org/web/20201126223119/https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2020/11/a-closer-look-at-u-s-deaths-due-to-covid-19

This is the "study" discussed earlier in this thread that the student-run John Hopkins Newsletter deleted. Comprehensive coverage can be found here, but here are the cliff notes:

*It's not a study. The author is not a medical professional or a disease researcher. The newsletter article was an interview about a youtube video she posted (that is still online)

*She used  death counts from two years, 2018 and 2020.  She didn't use raw numbers, she used comparative percentages. (Multiple studies have already shown that death rates are up by at least 20% this year). Not only did she use comparative percentages, she compared different points in the year.  (Changes in death rates and death causes are usually seasonally consistent.) . So, she used wrong  numbers from a miniscule sample  and compared them inaccurately.

*Death certificates have fields for comorbidities, so if there is an underlying cause, it is recorded. Complications from multiple ailments isn't something that was invented this year.