assisted suicides in Canada

[Matt]

I read about a doctor here going to Switzerland to euthanize herself. I mostly wonder why you wouldn't just do it yourself, screw the legality. You could design a very pleasant cocktail too.

At this point in time I see suicide as a human right. I do theoretically see some room for abuse with a system of legal euthanasia i.e. the idea is planted by someone else.

What is that? Euthanasia tourism?

Or is that because all EU countries are connected, that you can travel to another country to use their healthcare services like that?

As Canada's medical assisted suicide will be among the most lenient in the world, it is for Canadian citizens only, go prevent people from coming here just for legal euthanasia - euthanasia tourism, as I said.

[Matt]

Is this why Josh is going to stay with Matt

Yes.

[Matt]

Proviron has been compared to antidepressants and was supposedly more effective than antidepressants. It's easy to believe. One problem is that depression is often coupled with anxiety and panic disorder, like for me. Steroids often cause anxiety and panic anxiety which is the worst shit you can imagine. It's pretty common actually. Most common culprits are trenbolone and boldenone. Lots of bodybuilders have started on SSRIs at least partly due to steroids. I remember one "European" cycle example in MM2K had Prozac in the plan. Prozac was started just before getting off the cycle to counter the ensuing depression.

Proviron is a nice mood booster. An added bonus is that it's not supposed to shut down your test production unlike everything else. So it's like taking (neuro)steroids with little to no sides. Doesn't do much if anything for muscle growth but it improves mood and gives you a crazy sex drive.

Van, do you think I'll have any depression jumping off 15mg of Anadrol per day?

Also, off-topic somewhat, but are there "levels" of being shut down? So for instance, am I less shut down being on such a low-dose, compared to what I would have been had I used more daily Anadrol and added the Sustanon?

Definitely off-topic, but someone was impressed with my results, and asked if he could take 1x 25mg Anadrol tablet per week only. What would the minimum amount be that a person could still make some gains?

I can tell you conclusively that I previously made gains from 12.5mg daily. I ran that for three weeks, both in August and in December of 2016. I didn't run PCT either time, and while I didn't have my T levels checked after, I did so a fertility test in March of 2017, and had a 1.18 billion sperm count? Do some steroids reduce sperm count, but not others?

So my questions:

[1] Will I have any issues jumping off low-dose Anadrol WITHOUT PCT?

[2] Are there levels of being shut down? Does more gear = more shut down, or is it all the same?

[3] What's the least amount of Anadrol or other gear you can run and still get results?

[4] Do all steroids lower sperm count, or just certain ones?

Thanks Van!

[Van_Bilderass]

So my questions:

[1] Will I have any issues jumping off low-dose Anadrol WITHOUT PCT?

[2] Are there levels of being shut down? Does more gear = more shut down, or is it all the same?

[3] What's the least amount of Anadrol or other gear you can run and still get results?

[4] Do all steroids lower sperm count, or just certain ones?

Thanks Van!

I doubt you'll have issues. It's just so little. But you'll find out.

There are different levels of shut down. You only did a "cycle"
and it was low dose. The longer you're on the harder the suppression. Most steroids will probably shut you down completely over time. Some steroids seem to be harder to recover from, like the nandrolones. Some steroids do not shut you down completely over the short term.

I don't know exactly what would be the least amount to benefit from. With Dbol just 10mg is definitely enough to benefit from if you are an exogenous androgen naive person.
Age also plays into it, young people are more sensitive. So Anadrol might be effective in that same range? Of course you stall quickly but initially it can help you put on a few pounds of lbm. I saw in others, and felt myself, how it worked. It was like 10lbs from 20 5mg tablets in a couple of 15 year olds I saw (yeah I know, not a good idea). Mostly water of course but it was like your gains, it's not simply any old water retention.

Most steroids lower sperm count. There are some theories where in some circumstances they may increase it or not lower it as much. Palumbo has this idea that if you take a very high dose of test some of this test will increase intratesticular test - intratesticular test is essential for sperm production and is usually lowered by test or steroids. I don't know if there is any validity to this but this is his explanation why some Mr O competitors fathered children. Another thing, if you want to remain fertile during steroid use you can do so by by taking a couple of weekly 500iu HCG shots during your cycle. It does this by keeping the testes cranking through the fake signal from the HCG. I would always used HCG for a few reasons but I've been too cheap or lazy to get it. Not all people go sterile from steroids, that's why test never was used as a birt control method. Proviron/mesterolone might be an exeption. I wrote about it above. Ithink it has been used to actuall increase sperm count. Unfortunately there is litte anabolism to be had with it. You might try it after you've been off for a while. See if it improves mood and if there are any positive physical effects, might be some strength gain at least. There aren't many downsides to trying it. If I'm not mistaken it's even OTC in Greece, whereas everything else is stricktly regulated.

[Matt]

I doubt you'll have issues. It's just so little. But you'll find out.

There are different levels of shut down. You only did a "cycle"
and it was low dose. The longer you're on the harder the suppression. Most steroids will probably shut you down completely over time. Some steroids seem to be harder to recover from, like the nandrolones. Some steroids do not shut you down completely over the short term.

I don't know exactly what would be the least amount to benefit from. With Dbol just 10mg is definitely enough to benefit from if you are an exogenous androgen naive person.
Age also plays into it, young people are more sensitive. So Anadrol might be effective in that same range? Of course you stall quickly but initially it can help you put on a few pounds of lbm. I saw in others, and felt myself, how it worked. It was like 10lbs from 20 5mg tablets in a couple of 15 year olds I saw (yeah I know, not a good idea). Mostly water of course but it was like your gains, it's not simply any old water retention.

Most steroids lower sperm count. There are some theories where in some circumstances they may increase it or not lower it as much. Palumbo has this idea that if you take a very high dose of test some of this test will increase intratesticular test - intratesticular test is essential for sperm production and is usually lowered by test or steroids. I don't know if there is any validity to this but this is his explanation why some Mr O competitors fathered children. Another thing, if you want to remain fertile during steroid use you can do so by by taking a couple of weekly 500iu HCG shots during your cycle. It does this by keeping the testes cranking through the fake signal from the HCG. I would always used HCG for a few reasons but I've been too cheap or lazy to get it. Not all people go sterile from steroids, that's why test never was used as a birt control method. Proviron/mesterolone might be an exeption. I wrote about it above. Ithink it has been used to actuall increase sperm count. Unfortunately there is litte anabolism to be had with it. You might try it after you've been off for a while. See if it improves mood and if there are any positive physical effects, might be some strength gain at least. There aren't many downsides to trying it. If I'm not mistaken it's even OTC in Greece, whereas everything else is stricktly regulated.

Thanks Van!

So I will tell the person who asked me that he could enjoy some success on a cycle of 10mg daily Dbol, or 10mg daily Anadrol [which would be about 3x 25mg tablets per week]. Or maybe Anavar. He wants to make improvements without necessarily, increasing his body mass, but increase his overall fitness level / ability to recover after his daily jogs. He is 50, and has never used steroids of any kind, but has been fit his entire life.

Regarding my sperm count, will it make a full recovery again? I suppose if I lose my sperm count during cycle [I don't know if that happened], that would be fine, as long as it goes back to as high as it's ever been before.

Is there any evidence that steroids will reduce a person's fertility even after the cycle is over? Robert C. Guns was saying that steroids may reduce a person's max T level after the fact [which I interpreted as meaning that your natural T crashes on a cycle, and recovers after, but may not go back to your previous max because your cycle sort of eroded your body's capacity for the.

So my question is - given sufficient time, should my fertility go back to normal after the fact, assuming it [my fertility/ sperm count] dropped slightly during cycle [which, personally, I don't know if it did], or is one possibility that I will have a slightly lower fertility rate forever?

I'm asking because I would have more kids with the right woman, if that came up. So I don't want it risk my sperm count, and one of my massive friends who has cycled everything for decades was unable to have kids, and needed a sperm donor, and now has a baby who is not his biological child.

Is there any reason to think that my fertility would be permanently lowered from steroids - be it my light cycle, or any others?

I'd personally rather not lose my natural hormones, but if fully recovering them is possible, I wouldn't worry about it either.

[Van_Bilderass]

Thanks Van!

So I will tell the person who asked me that he could enjoy some success on a cycle of 10mg daily Dbol, or 10mg daily Anadrol [which would be about 3x 25mg tablets per week]. Or maybe Anavar. He wants to make improvements without necessarily, increasing his body mass, but increase his overall fitness level / ability to recover after his daily jogs. He is 50, and has never used steroids of any kind, but has been fit his entire life.

Regarding my sperm count, will it make a full recovery again? I suppose if I lose my sperm count during cycle [I don't know if that happened], that would be fine, as long as it goes back to as high as it's ever been before.

Is there any evidence that steroids will reduce a person's fertility even after the cycle is over? Robert C. Guns was saying that steroids may reduce a person's max T level after the fact [which I interpreted as meaning that your natural T crashes on a cycle, and recovers after, but may not go back to your previous max because your cycle sort of eroded your body's capacity for the.

So my question is - given sufficient time, should my fertility go back to normal after the fact, assuming it [my fertility/ sperm count] dropped slightly during cycle [which, personally, I don't know if it did], or is one possibility that I will have a slightly lower fertility rate forever?

I'm asking because I would have more kids with the right woman, if that came up. So I don't want it risk my sperm count, and one of my massive friends who has cycled everything for decades was unable to have kids, and needed a sperm donor, and now has a baby who is not his biological child.

Is there any reason to think that my fertility would be permanently lowered from steroids - be it my light cycle, or any others?

I'd personally rather not lose my natural hormones, but if fully recovering them is possible, I wouldn't worry about it either.

You will almost certainly make a full recovery. That's my guess. Of course it would be interesting to know how much or how little it reduced your sperm.

Like I said earlier, you should do HCG during any subsequent cycles. I can't see any downsides. That way you don't become sterile in the first place. I mean HCG would be beneficial for other reasons too, like if you have no testosterone in the stack. HCG keeps your normal testosterone going during the cycle.

It seems like there is a magic compound that restores ferility almost every time, if you had it in the first place and you obviously did. It's Human Menopausal Gonadotropin or HMG which is kinda the same as follicle stimulating hormone. This is usually taken 3 times per week preferably with HCG 3 times per week. It's expensive but it's for an important cause  Dante Doggcrapp said he's recommended it to dozens of guys with problems and he claims it hasn't failed once. Tons and tons of testimonials on the net. If I was infertile I would immediately hop on it. I bet even I could become fertile after 25 years 



If your buddy wants to take some roids Anavar would probably be the safest bet. But, for optimal results I would add at least a testosterone gel to replace what is lost due to suppression. Test is important cognitively which means extremely important. Of course a tiny drop of GH would be the icing on the cake for this person 

[Method101]

Eugenics is essential, dumb violent mentally and physically sick people are outbreeding intelligent healthy people under current circumstances, the long term results will mean the end of civilization and the descent into an anarchic Darwinian hell.

[Marvin Martian]

FCK suicide I’m trying to figure out how to live as long as possible. Not scared of dying because wtf when it’s done it’s done - but damn I love living!  Breathing is fckn awesome 😎 man. Even if I was not happy I have a huge family that love me. I can’t think of anything more selfish than bailing on them.
Matt I thought you have kids??? I know you aren’t a full time dad but still man.

[IroNat]

When they move you to the hospice, is that the medical staff basically saying "You're about to die?"

It means they can't help you anymore and death is imminent.

[Matt]

An article from 2017 that goes into some detail about the cost savings of medically assisted suicide on our socialized healthcare system:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/medically-assisted-death-could-save-millions-1.3947481

[Van_Bilderass]

An article from 2017 that goes into some detail about the cost savings of medically assisted suicide on our socialized healthcare system:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/medically-assisted-death-could-save-millions-1.3947481

It's logical but you could see this as a stepping stone to people ending their life when they stop working. Considering societal costs ideally someone would work until they die. This is what  many feel the plan is as they keep rising the retirement age. Here they have raised it quite a bit during my lifetime and want to raise it further. Retirement is just costs. During Covid many said they didn't feel at all sorry for "old" folks dying as they aren't much use to society at that point anyway. In my ideal world, we would all be afforded a nice retirement. In general there should be higher respect for the elderly as they have built what we are enjoying. I see elderly people enjoying life and it makes me happy, that is me at some point if I don't die early and suddenly. I wouldn't want to feel like a burden.

[jwb]

How much basal in a day? Once or twice daily?

Bodybuilders can handle a lot especially if they have no restrictions on carb intake. GH "helps" in this case since it induces resistance. Some of guys with Milos do 100iu of fast acting a day IV! Then other camps do a lot of basal Lantus as well, easily 100iu sometimes double that. Then the Humalog on top. I've done 60 Lantus and 60-80 Novorapid no problem and I didn't even use GH. But yeah my sensitivity probably wasn't that great. If I kept a steady stream of carbs coming I didn't even notice it. It doesn't do a whole lot for me but it does something. Say if you load carbs the day before an attempted PR session it does help you get full and swollen and strong. Strangely my worst hypo episodes have been after drinking whey protein, no insulin added.

11iu of Lantus twice a day. 12 year old female.

[Gym-Rat]

In Cuck-Canada, hey are exploring "Death by Potty-Seat" since Oak's a half-a-sissy who's turd-tunnel takes a pegging/pounding and ruptures.
Hilarious beta-cuck...

[jwb]

I had no idea you have a 12-year-old, jwb! I do too - as well two girls, 13 and 5.

It's nice to be a dad.

Had one when I was 38. Didn’t meet my wife until I was 36 and she was 37.

She didn’t finish medical training until age 34 though since she did an MD and a PHD back to back.

She wasn’t very jaded like a typical 37 year old since she had been so busy up until then.

[wes]

I want to live to be 100 then get shot by a jealous husband !!

Dying is overrated.

[GymnJuice]

Will there be an 8 week waiting period before receiving medical services like for the other procedures done in Canada?