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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2024, 07:29:39 AM »
I tend to do a maximum of two excercises per body part , just for variety,  99% of my tricep training is rope extensions to the waist, very occasionally use a Machine

I know you´re a switched on guy & know anatomy.
I like the overhead movements stretching but it´s irrelevant as it all works.

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2024, 07:34:15 AM »
I know you´re a switched on guy & know anatomy.
I like the overhead movements stretching but it´s irrelevant as it all works.

everything works, its better to do the excercises you like the most, that way you will do them regularly.

Its like people who say they hate squats but do them anyway???

Why do something you hate doing when other excercises work just as well.

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2024, 07:36:22 AM »
everything works, its better to do the excercises you like the most, that way you will do them regularly.

Its like people who say they hate squats but do them anyway???

Why do something you hate doing when other excercises work just as well.

I know your training philosophy  ;).

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2024, 08:41:18 AM »
I have made a huge improvement in my traps by increasing my training volume following Eric Lilliebridge's advice. For almost a year I have been training them 2-3 times a week, usually with 6 sometimes 8 series per training. Now I have traps and a neck like a smaller version of Goldberg, but I also noticed that I started snoring since then...

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2024, 08:54:39 AM »
I have made a huge improvement in my traps by increasing my training volume following Eric Lilliebridge's advice. For almost a year I have been training them 2-3 times a week, usually with 6 sometimes 8 series per training. Now I have traps and a neck like a smaller version of Goldberg, but I also noticed that I started snoring since then...

Hankins with his fake 19 inch neck incoming.....

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2024, 10:21:27 AM »
High volume is awesome. Gets everything pumped joints lubed, even better to finish with one heavy low rep set .
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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2024, 01:02:07 AM »
High volume is awesome. Gets everything pumped joints lubed, even better to finish with one heavy low rep set .
But why waste all that time to make the same gains?

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2024, 02:24:33 AM »
Also I should have mentioned doing just one movement for the 30-35 sets.

Like the other day it was db shrugs and db laterals, next one will be barbell shrugs and rear delt. Then front raise with behind back shrugs etc… I think hammering one movement does a lot.

I seem to recall Vince Gironda saying that was the best way to work out what part of a muscle was getting worked the most by an exercise (or they way you did it) - where the DOMS came later

I know joswift will say it's the whole muscle and not specific parts or something like that ;D  but I used it a few times as a beginner or when I needed a change and it worked for me🤷‍♂️
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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2024, 03:09:56 AM »
everything works, its better to do the excercises you like the most, that way you will do them regularly.

Its like people who say they hate squats but do them anyway???

Why do something you hate doing when other excercises work just as well.

Definitely agree on this. If I don’t like something I don’t do it.

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2024, 03:11:24 AM »
WIth the utmost respect Rob - as this is some genuinely impressive stuff by anyone's standards, how many reps shy of failure would each set be?

I've never done volume as high as that, but I started out as a teen taking too much notice of Mentzer and his ilk because it 'seemed right' philosophically. But philosophy doesn't mean a thing, training either works or it doesn't. As soon as I went from 1 set to failure and forced reps, and went to 3-4 working sets all stopped 1 rep or so short of failure I inmmediately got out of the rut i was in and saw gains in strength and size. Went to 6-8 sets and 2 reps shy of failure and gained even better. I'm no phil heath but fuck me does volume work a treat.

Taking your example of inclines - how many times per week or fortnight would you perform them? (as in the exercise or bodypart itself not just the super high volume work?)

Sometimes every set to positive failure. Sometimes half but definitely some are taking to failure usually more than not. Otherwise leave 1-2 reps in the tank but pretty close to failure most the time.

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2024, 05:22:08 AM »

The best I looked was taking a leaf out of No One’s book.

7-10 sets of 20 reps with 3 breaths between sets. Finish one exercise and go straight to the next. Very light weights, full body workouts and I’d train 5 days a week.

Was on 250/wk test, people couldn’t believe how little weight I used, was 80kg (I’m 5’10). No injuries, no fatigue or burnout. I need to get back into this again, it’s actually an enjoyable way to train as mentally it’s not hard effort, you just get puffed out from lack of rest.

What did no one's routine look like? I forgot and the PDF from him and Galeniko got lost a few PCs ago.

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2024, 05:33:57 AM »
everything works, its better to do the excercises you like the most, that way you will do them regularly.

Its like people who say they hate squats but do them anyway???

Why do something you hate doing when other excercises work just as well.

I gravitate towards this nowadays. Full body everyday (life gives days off) and do what I want. Most days I don't even bother going to the gym anymore, just pump up (no homo) with bodyweight work and bands at home with short rest periods for the cardio benefit. As I'm working at home, I just do short workouts 2-4 times a day. I probably go to the gym 3 times a week for like half an hour.

Set routines are dumb for non-athletes.

And playing something like football or squash 2-3 times a week is way better for your overall health and brain than mindless cardio for an hour+ at the gym.

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Re: Really high volume
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2024, 07:27:01 AM »
I gravitate towards this nowadays. Full body everyday (life gives days off) and do what I want. Most days I don't even bother going to the gym anymore, just pump up (no homo) with bodyweight work and bands at home with short rest periods for the cardio benefit. As I'm working at home, I just do short workouts 2-4 times a day. I probably go to the gym 3 times a week for like half an hour.

Set routines are dumb for non-athletes.

And playing something like football or squash 2-3 times a week is way better for your overall health and brain than mindless cardio for an hour+ at the gym.

Cardio should be something you enjoy & i like biking on my mountain bike.
as Joeswift wrote if you don´t enjoy an exercise why do it?