Really high volume

[robcguns]

Anyone try really high volume?

It feels awesome to get a muscle so sore you can actually feel every part of it. Been doing really high volume on shoulders and traps and the pumps are nasty and noticeably bigger in a short period of time. From doing the shrugs the forearms and traps get crazy sore,doing lots of laterals smokes my side and rear delt.

Gonna stick to it for a while. Sets of 10-50 for 30-35 sets once a week for a few months. Just on traps and shoulders. Don’t want to be sore everywhere all the time but trap soreness feels amazing.

[Hulkotron]

I did a set of 44 deadlifts couple months ago.

[SF1900]

I normally do 15-30 sets for every body part.

Not because I think it will get me any more bigger. I just like being in the gym and the pump.

[IroNat]

I eat lots of eggs and peanuts.

[robcguns]

Also I should have mentioned doing just one movement for the 30-35 sets.

Like the other day it was db shrugs and db laterals, next one will be barbell shrugs and rear delt. Then front raise with behind back shrugs etc… I think hammering one movement does a lot.

[SF1900]

Also I should have mentioned doing just one movement for the 30-35 sets.

Like the other day it was db shrugs and db laterals, next one will be barbell shrugs and rear delt. Then front raise with behind back shrugs etc… I think hammering one movement does a lot.

Rob, do you think Brian does more sets than you?

[Irongrip400]

I’m a 15-18 set type of guy. I’ll do a few exercises for 4 sets then the rest for three.

[oldtimer1]

Anyone try really high volume?

It feels awesome to get a muscle so sore you can actually feel every part of it. Been doing really high volume on shoulders and traps and the pumps are nasty and noticeably bigger in a short period of time. From doing the shrugs the forearms and traps get crazy sore,doing lots of laterals smokes my side and rear delt.

Gonna stick to it for a while. Sets of 10-50 for 30-35 sets once a week for a few months. Just on traps and shoulders. Don’t want to be sore everywhere all the time but trap soreness feels amazing.

Did you mean 35 sets of 10-50 reps?  That's an insane amount of volume. Can't imagine anyone could do that amount of sets and reps unless they are using 10 pound dumbbells.

Ever do something like 50 reps for the first set to failure then do a second set of that stops you around 30 reps.  It's a  major pump. 

Steve Holman the bodybuilding writer described a method called TORX.  He basically said do a set for a to failure reps with a weight that gets you about 30 reps.  Rest briefly then do a second set. Maybe you will get around 20 reps. Then for one final set where you will fail around 10 reps. All using the same weight. The number of reps isn't important. Just use enough weight to make sure that first set is high reps.

 I know a good bodybuilder that did well in the 1975 AAU Mr. America contest. I won't mention his name because I don't want to put words in his mouth.  He never heard of Steve Holman and his label for that style of training.  This guy is now around 69 and still training hard and he uses a similar method that Steve Holman described. When I was talking to him he told me about his training it sounded so similar to TORX.  Three sets with the first very high reps with the same weight. Short rest between sets.

[Professor Deltoid]

Anyone try really high volume?

It feels awesome to get a muscle so sore you can actually feel every part of it. Been doing really high volume on shoulders and traps and the pumps are nasty and noticeably bigger in a short period of time. From doing the shrugs the forearms and traps get crazy sore,doing lots of laterals smokes my side and rear delt.

Gonna stick to it for a while. Sets of 10-50 for 30-35 sets once a week for a few months. Just on traps and shoulders. Don’t want to be sore everywhere all the time but trap soreness feels amazing.

Can't lift heavy weights and do high volume.

[robcguns]

Can't lift heavy weights and do high volume.

I sure as hell can. I can do 20-30 sets if incline db presses and stick with 100s-140s the whole time. Same with shrugs. I can do prob 15 sets of 120s on incline for 20 reps every set.

[robcguns]

Rob, do you think Brian does more sets than you?

Of course.

[robcguns]

Did you mean 35 sets of 10-50 reps?  That's an insane amount of volume. Can't imagine anyone could do that amount of sets and reps unless they are using 10 pound dumbbells.

Ever do something like 50 reps for the first set to failure then do a second set of that stops you around 30 reps.  It's a  major pump. 

Steve Holman the bodybuilding writer described a method called TORX.  He basically said do a set for a to failure reps with a weight that gets you about 30 reps.  Rest briefly then do a second set. Maybe you will get around 20 reps. Then for one final set where you will fail around 10 reps. All using the same weight. The number of reps isn't important. Just use enough weight to make sure that first set is high reps.

 I know a good bodybuilder that did well in the 1975 AAU Mr. America contest. I won't mention his name because I don't want to put words in his mouth.  He never heard of Steve Holman and his label for that style of training.  This guy is now around 69 and still training hard and he uses a similar method that Steve Holman described. When I was talking to him he told me about his training it sounded so similar to TORX.  Three sets with the first very high reps with the same weight. Short rest between sets.

Yes 35 sets of 10-50 reps. I’m so sore right now and it feels amazing. All sets rest is about 60-90 seconds.

[beakdoctor]

I remember articles in M&F and Flex about a system called Hunreds and it involved doing sets of 100 reps.

I don't remember all the details but the point was switching up training for really high reps will give you surprising results.

I think it was suggested to be used when more conventional traini g becomes stagnant.

[Coach is Back!]

Anyone try really high volume?

It feels awesome to get a muscle so sore you can actually feel every part of it. Been doing really high volume on shoulders and traps and the pumps are nasty and noticeably bigger in a short period of time. From doing the shrugs the forearms and traps get crazy sore,doing lots of laterals smokes my side and rear delt.

Gonna stick to it for a while. Sets of 10-50 for 30-35 sets once a week for a few months. Just on traps and shoulders. Don’t want to be sore everywhere all the time but trap soreness feels amazing.

I’ve been doing a modified “hundreds” system for the last 10 weeks. Makes a huge difference. I was apart of the “hundreds” system experiment back in the 80’s with Jeff Feliciano and Rory. I wrote about it not too long ago.

[Mayday]

The best I looked was taking a leaf out of No One’s book.

7-10 sets of 20 reps with 3 breaths between sets. Finish one exercise and go straight to the next. Very light weights, full body workouts and I’d train 5 days a week.

Was on 250/wk test, people couldn’t believe how little weight I used, was 80kg (I’m 5’10). No injuries, no fatigue or burnout. I need to get back into this again, it’s actually an enjoyable way to train as mentally it’s not hard effort, you just get puffed out from lack of rest.

[BlackMetallic]

I sure as hell can. I can do 20-30 sets if incline db presses and stick with 100s-140s the whole time. Same with shrugs. I can do prob 15 sets of 120s on incline for 20 reps every set.

You sick twisted fuck

:-))))

[Van_Bilderass]

I've tried something similar lately. Sometimes I miss being really sore. I have joint pains but the muscle soreness just isn't what it used to be. Maybe Vince B is right

But I'm going to be a party pooper and say the gains are inflammation. If it feels great, do it.

Rob is crazy strong, video some good sets 

[Humble Narcissist]

I attempted Steve Michalik's Intensity or Insanity workout program a few decades ago. I didn't make it far.

[BlackMetallic]

I've tried something similar lately. Sometimes I miss being really sore. I have joint pains but the muscle soreness just isn't what it used to be. Maybe Vince B is right

But I'm going to be a party pooper and say the gains are inflammation. If it feels great, do it.

Rob is crazy strong, video some good sets 

How often are you training a muscle?

[CalvinH]

Anyone try really high volume?

It feels awesome to get a muscle so sore you can actually feel every part of it. Been doing really high volume on shoulders and traps and the pumps are nasty and noticeably bigger in a short period of time. From doing the shrugs the forearms and traps get crazy sore,doing lots of laterals smokes my side and rear delt.

Gonna stick to it for a while. Sets of 10-50 for 30-35 sets once a day or two. Just on traps and shoulders. Don’t want to be sore everywhere all the time but trap soreness feels amazing.

Hi dj181!

[joswift]

I cant be arsed

I go in the gym and do 6 sets tops for a body part, the muscle gets as pumped as its going to get due to the fact it fails due to lactic acid build up (yes I do reps 15-20 these days)

For me just carrying on doing sets is a waste of time.

Stress the muscle with short intense workouts and then I go and do something enjoyable like walking the dog

You can literally train all day if you just rest long enough between sets

[TheShape.]

I usually do my working sets of the body parts I’m working on first and then towards the end I will do a few sets of 15-25 just to pump up the area and get blood flow in there.

[nobody in particular]

WIth the utmost respect Rob - as this is some genuinely impressive stuff by anyone's standards, how many reps shy of failure would each set be?

I've never done volume as high as that, but I started out as a teen taking too much notice of Mentzer and his ilk because it 'seemed right' philosophically. But philosophy doesn't mean a thing, training either works or it doesn't. As soon as I went from 1 set to failure and forced reps, and went to 3-4 working sets all stopped 1 rep or so short of failure I inmmediately got out of the rut i was in and saw gains in strength and size. Went to 6-8 sets and 2 reps shy of failure and gained even better. I'm no phil heath but fuck me does volume work a treat.

Taking your example of inclines - how many times per week or fortnight would you perform them? (as in the exercise or bodypart itself not just the super high volume work?)

[Donny]

I cant be arsed

I go in the gym and do 6 sets tops for a body part, the muscle gets as pumped as its going to get due to the fact it fails due to lactic acid build up (yes I do reps 15-20 these days)

For me just carrying on doing sets is a waste of time.

Stress the muscle with short intense workouts and then I go and do something enjoyable like walking the dog

You can literally train all day if you just rest long enough between sets

I think more sets if competing & i suspect you like multiple sets for one exercise like Doug Brignole did.

[joswift]

I think more sets if competing & i suspect you like multiple sets for one exercise like Doug Brignole did.

I tend to do a maximum of two excercises per body part , just for variety,  99% of my tricep training is rope extensions to the waist, very occasionally use a Machine