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high reps
« on: September 05, 2006, 08:54:01 AM »
is it good to do high reps to get your muscles leaned out and cut?

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Re: high reps
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 08:57:46 AM »
No,
it takes a decent diet. 12 reps max for your heaviest set.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2006, 10:42:25 AM »
No,
it takes a decent diet. 12 reps max for your heaviest set.
I agree, except maybe legs/back sometimes I go 15-20 if im doing a drop set.
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Re: high reps
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2006, 11:06:53 AM »
is it good to do high reps to get your muscles leaned out and cut?

Another classic myth.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 01:29:42 PM »
It's not clear cut, thus i like moderate-high reps while cutting. Anecdotally there are a some things in favor of high reps:

-Helps with the cutting & refining training IMO, because with lighter weights the mind-muscle connection is far easier to focus on; it is the nature of refining. Even a HIT low-set heavy weight proponent like Casey Viator favors volume and higher reps for refinement.

-Much less chance of injury with higher reps-the muscle will be worked, not the ligaments. This is potentially more of a factor while cutting with a restricted diet. Yates' injuries were considered due at least in part to going heavy with lower reps pre-contest.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2006, 02:35:21 PM »
doesn't high rep cause testesterone and gh release though? if so that would definatly help with getting cut up.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2006, 03:37:35 PM »
When you are dieting down, especiallly naturally. Your body's natural resonse is to lose muscle, by still lifting as heavy as possible you are forcing your body to adapt and hold on to as much muscle as your diet can support. I agree that lifting lighter is safer on the joints but there is also the factor that with lighter weight your concentration isn't as intense and your form can be jeapordized. As far as donig higher reps for getting more "cuts", you will never see your muscles if they are covered by fat no matter what rep range you train in.   

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Re: high reps
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2006, 05:43:43 PM »
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I agree that lifting lighter is safer on the joints but there is also the factor that with lighter weight your concentration isn't as intense and your form can be jeapordized.
That's completely contrary to what most would find, IMO. If you go lighter (not light), still using decent weight but under control, you can put all your energies on the feel of the exercise. Quite evidentally when the weights get heavy you tend to focus on the lift, not the muscles, not what you want when cutting IMO.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2006, 06:32:58 PM »
I like to do a mix. For example today with legs I went heavy on squats (6 reps) and high reps on leg press (15).

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Re: high reps
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2006, 08:04:09 PM »
Heavy squats are not going to help cut or refine; in fact Coleman would have been better off  removing heavy squats and refining his thighs down in size with other exercises using less weight.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2006, 01:29:26 AM »
@ pumpster

what do you exactly mean with lighter weight and more reps?
It's normal to go a bit back in weight and raise the reps,
imho it means to do your heaviest set with a max of twelve reps, but if lower reps work fine keep doing them.


I want to clearify it cause I know numerous people who interprete it as 18+ or even higher.

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Re: high reps
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2006, 03:04:01 AM »
is it good to do high reps to get your muscles leaned out and cut?

cardio and diet will lean you out....   90% diet, 10% cardio