no, that would be the truth as 99.9999% of the world sees it.
If you were to all of sudden argue that 2+2 =5, you could convince yourself that it was true.
and you could say that it is only the "opinion" of everyone else that it is actually 4.
But that does not mean you would be right:
Too bad that muscularity&symmetry are the criterias which bodybuilding contests are judged by, and "shape", as I said in the truce thread, is evaluated together with symmetry, but it is not something that the judges
have to consider. A specific judge might decide that a bodybuilder has better shape and reward him for that, or he may not. Dorian didn't have a problem defeating guys who, in your opinion, have better shape. like Wheeler, Kevin and Coleman(smaller waists, rounder muscles, more striations, etc). So, this proves that by no means would Coleman defeat Dorian because he combines size with shape. Dorian did compete against Coleman and Levrone, both of whom had smaller and rounder muscles than Dorian at over 250 lbs, so your argument is weak.
Dorian defeated guys who outweighed him by 30 lbs, like Fux and Nasser, and he defeated guys who had, according to your criteria, vastly superior shape(Wheeler, Ray, etc). Don't try to argue that Coleman defeating Dorian because he was 250 lbs with a small waist is a certain thing, because even Nasser, at 285 lbs, had a smaller waist than Dorian and Diesel defeated him with straight-firsts scores. Yes, I know that Nasser has a completely different aesthetics than Ronnie, but the point is that no combination seemed to work at defeating Dorian: out-muscling him didn't work(Nasser, 1996 Olympia); coming in with better proportions didn't work(Shawn, 1994 Olympia). Coming in big&full with superb taper didn't work(Levrone, 1995 Olympia). So, you may or may not be right that a 257 lbs Ronnie with a smaller waist than Dorian would be able to defeat him, but comparisons clearly showed that
nothing worked to defeat Dorian Yates.
We will never know what would happen if the Dorian from the 1993/5 Olympia went against the Ronnie who showed up for the 1999 rendition of the contest; we do know, however, that Dorian would be the most muscular man onstage and, with the exception of his waist, he would have the better proportions. Oh, and also the better conditioning. All things considered, odds are that Dorian would win.
dorian's back never ever looked this good - in the opinion of almost everyone except you and ND. Think about that for a minute.
In 1993, Dorian's latissumus, teres major, teres minor and infra-spinatus were the thickest and widest ever seen on a bodybuilding stage. So much so that he would only be surpassed a full decade latter, by Ronnie himself.
Going against the 1999 Ronnie, the 1993 or 1995 Dorian would
definitely have the best back when it comes to muscularity. Symmetry is debatable, but Dorian had superb proportions between all his back muscles. Dorian's lower back was more striated and his upper back had comparable separations. The only thing Ronnie would have on him, I think, would be cross-striations. But then, this is largely irrelevant, taking a back seat to width and thickness.
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