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For those that do not like.....
« on: November 27, 2006, 07:01:46 PM »
Deadlifts, do you do rack deads for extra thickness in the erectors?  I know Lee P likes these and he is certainly thick.  I like both but at times I feel that my heavy deads hurt me a bit. 
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Re: For those that do not like.....
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2006, 08:53:10 PM »
I like rack deads...I've gotten to where I do these a lot more then I used to. Honestly though I prefer them straight form the floor, but that's more of an ego thing for me. After I hurt my back about 2 years ago I started incorporating the rack version...I was worried that it might not be as effective but so far so good. A lot of people argue that it isn't as effective because you take away a lot of hamstring involvement, but I say who cares...when I do deads of any type I'm training back, not hams...I get plenty of ham work on other days.

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Re: For those that do not like.....
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2006, 11:22:46 PM »
Not a bad idea to use them now and again. I would say to switch your primary back movement every 3-4 weeks. Find 3 good back movements you like and keep it fresh.

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Re: For those that do not like.....
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 05:38:59 AM »
I like rack deads...I've gotten to where I do these a lot more then I used to. Honestly though I prefer them straight form the floor, but that's more of an ego thing for me. After I hurt my back about 2 years ago I started incorporating the rack version...I was worried that it might not be as effective but so far so good. A lot of people argue that it isn't as effective because you take away a lot of hamstring involvement, but I say who cares...when I do deads of any type I'm training back, not hams...I get plenty of ham work on other days.

I concur...

i alternate back and forth every month or so.

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Re: For those that do not like.....
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 08:26:19 AM »
I agree with Arnold jr, who makes good points. Remembering that with the DL, the bar is being held stable, while the blunt of the lift (motion) is being done by the  hips/glutes/quads & hams. Weither starting from the floor or around knee height, the affect on the total back/traps/lats remains about the same. And more weight can be used from a higher starting position.

If concerned about the lower back, and lifting from the floor, than SLDL's might be used in a DL rack pull workout. Or you may try just doing the SLDL by it's self. A great exercise when done right. Using SLDL's for a  month or so, as the only pulling movement from the floor , and than returning to the regular DL workout, should greatly increase that regular floor DL. GoodMornings are another power and muscle building exercise for building lower back & hams strength. This also has a wonderful affect of low back strength. SLDL's & GM'ing can improve the squating quite well also.

If doing the SLDL with heavy weigh (4-7 reps), just go as low as the 45's allow. On occasion try standing on a 4" platform, block, etc for a extra stretch., with lighter weight.... 12-15 reps. But never more that this.

As Overload suggested, might try alternating the rack DL with SLDL's every momth or so. In any event the lower back and the regular (floor) DL should gain improvement and power. Good Luck.

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Re: For those that do not like.....
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2006, 11:32:56 AM »
I like rack deads...I've gotten to where I do these a lot more then I used to. Honestly though I prefer them straight form the floor, but that's more of an ego thing for me. After I hurt my back about 2 years ago I started incorporating the rack version...I was worried that it might not be as effective but so far so good. A lot of people argue that it isn't as effective because you take away a lot of hamstring involvement, but I say who cares...when I do deads of any type I'm training back, not hams...I get plenty of ham work on other days.

You may get ham work other days but you don't get the blast ass ham workout that deads provide.  Remember when doing deads, you are not working your back, you are working your entire body.
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Re: For those that do not like.....
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2006, 03:45:22 PM »
You may get ham work other days but you don't get the blast ass ham workout that deads provide. 
True, but that's why I use SLDL on ham day.