I did a straight up buling cycle with 800 of Test E, 600 Deca and even some Anadrol while I was on 4iu of HGH, and I lost body fat. I think people underestimate how much HGH can help your cycles. If your on HGH for a long period of time before your cycle starts, your body will react better to everything, and you will experience the fat loss side of HGH will dramatically help your cause.