Pressing Question

[mass 04]

I was wondering how many of you guys press behind the neck.  I've read it can damage your rotators, but i've been doing them for a few months and have gotten great results.  I'm 21 and this is my current shoulder routine
BNP 4X 12,10,10,8
Cable laterals 4x 12,12,10,8
Bent laterals 3x 15,12,12
wide grip upright rows 3x 10,10,8
barbell shrugs 4x 15,12,10,8
Thanks

[Bluto]

some claim they put stress on the shoulder joint.

[mass 04]

yeah, I've heard that, what i've been doing lately is pre exhausting with the laterals first and doing the presses later, i don't go as heavy and it seems to be working well.

[Deicide]

I was wondering how many of you guys press behind the neck.  I've read it can damage your rotators, but i've been doing them for a few months and have gotten great results.  I'm 21 and this is my current shoulder routine
BNP 4X 12,10,10,8
Cable laterals 4x 12,12,10,8
Bent laterals 3x 15,12,12
wide grip upright rows 3x 10,10,8
barbell shrugs 4x 15,12,10,8
Thanks

Are you juicing? Otherwise that is wayyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooo many sets and exercises for such small muscles as the delta heads...I guess at 21 your testo is at a peak so that works...I bet if you upped the intensity, cut down to 3 exercises and went all out you would have better results. Damn...those are just too many...

[WOOO]

i have been pressing behind the neck for over 10 years with no problems... i avoid going lower than my mid ear.

[PANDAEMONIUM]

i have been pressing behind the neck for over 10 years with no problems... i avoid going lower than my mid ear.

Yeah but you use less than 100 lbs

[trab]

i have been pressing behind the neck for over 10 years with no problems... i avoid going lower than my mid ear.

Yeah, just go to the ear level with Barbell...

Them "Power Hooks" for Dumbells are great.
They eliminate need to clean Heavy dumbells. Lets ya concentrate on pressing.
DB's much kinder to the shoulder joint IMO.

[jpm101]

The PBN is Myth-Understood (sorry, had to borrow that wordage) like up-right rows are. The PBN is one of my favorite exercises.  Some lifters even jerk press very heavy weight from that position in regular workouts. I have also in the past.

Too many BB'ers are not flexible enough and do need a little warm-up and stretching in that region before attempting serious weight. The may try to rush the weight to soon, using weight that is not handled in good style. Many hold the BB too wide, giving unneeded stress to the shoulder joints.  Lower the BB too much behind the head. Try to touch the upper/mid trap, that is all that is required. If anyone is in to this, partial/power rack training can work well when the bar is pressed from behind the top of the head to full lockout position overhead. Giving impressive power and mass gains.

The PBN is a great mass builder for the whole shoulder girdle and will ensure a stronger shoulder joint structure when done in a planned way. Many PL'ers included the PBN to help their benching. Good Luck.

[trab]

It not a good movement for the inexperienced.

[mass 04]

Thanks for the info guys

[NoCalBbEr]

i think BNP  is not worth  doing. its to risky for rolotor cuff problem in the future. People say to go light and do more reps but why not do the front press and  go heavy as hell. Its harder to do the front press because it harder  to balance the weight.

I would also take out the cable side laterals for dumbbell side laterals. calbes are good when you need detail and can sqeeze each rep. the  free weight makes you balace the dumbbell and bring in the  secondary muscle.

wheres the rear delts?? 3 heads are better then  2