Jay should not have won! It ruins the O's integrity!

[jaejonna]

Jay should retire with dignity and admit that he should of not won.
Then next year will have a guaranteed new champion plus everyone will be surprised that Jay actually thinks like 95% of the population.
Monster Hype Machine.

Discuss

[eliscominblue]

All the shows are lame.  We should start a boycott of BB Mags.........who needs the magazines (which are nothing but advertisement vehicles) anyway?  Fcuk Weider and all of those money grubbing whores!  Getbig and other BB sites have all the contest coverage and information you could ever want and more.  

If everyone stopped buying the shit supplements and mags the industry would change....for the better IMO.

[slaveboy1980]

Jay should retire with dignity and admit that he should of not won.
Then next year will have a guaranteed new champion plus everyone will be surprised that Jay actually thinks like 95% of the population.
Monster Hype Machine.

Discuss

yes Jay "Veinless Steel" Cutler aka "olive oil" aka gay gutler should seriously contemplate retirement and focus on his social life and his neglected wife before she starts to fuck around. i think he will go into a deep depression the day he retires and will need heavy medication.

[figgs]

He's a strictly business-minded kinda guy it seems. I doubt he would risk creating tension with sponsors by speaking his TRUE opinions.

[Andre Nickatina]

All the shows are lame.  We should start a boycott of BB Mags.........who needs the magazines (which are nothing but advertisement vehicles) anyway?  Fcuk Weider and all of those money grubbing whores!  Getbig and other BB sites have all the contest coverage and information you could ever want and more.  

If everyone stopped buying the shit supplements and mags the industry would change....for the better IMO.

I stopped buying mags because of getbig. They're just so stupid and all the same. Every once in a blue moon one will captivate me enough to buy it.   

Getbig has all the news and coverage 2 months ahead of time, and it's unedited.

[jaejonna]

Ronnie got out too late....like three years late. It kinda makes you feel old when you see these people just deteriorate in front of your eyes. Then you have Vince Taylor

[slaveboy1980]

He's a strictly business-minded kinda guy it seems. I doubt he would risk creating tension with sponsors by speaking his TRUE opinions.

of course not..olive oil probably thinks he really won the mr o, and even if he doesnt he will never admit it...just say that it was really close and could have gone either way and finish with saying that dennis wolf is a real good up and coming bb who needs to add 67lbs

[Ozzy]

yes Jay "Veinless Steel" Cutler

WHAT DOES HAVING NO VEINS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING JAY WON HE BEAT DOWN ALL THE COMPETITION JAY JAY


...is what all the Jay fanboys would say in this topic. Hahaha, Cutler's arms were smoother than a baby's bottom.

[Rearden Metal]

yes Jay "Veinless Steel" Cutler aka "olive oil" aka gay gutler should seriously contemplate retirement and focus on his social life and his neglected wife before she starts to fuck around. i think he will go into a deep depression the day he retires and will need heavy medication.

Let's see pics of your house, cars and "wife". If you've got better than Jay maybe you've got room to criticize.

[Ozzy]

Let's see pics of your house, cars and "wife". If you've got better than Jay maybe you've got room to criticize.

So now we have to have more stuff than someone to voice an opinion? Epic logic

[slaveboy1980]

Let's see pics of your house, cars and "wife". If you've got better than Jay maybe you've got room to criticize.

im not married. but i have a maid. does that count ?haaaaaaahahaha

go wipe yourself, you stinky you. 

[pumpster]

  This is shooting for the stars. We have no way to know if his criminal record played a part or not. Dorian was a skinhead and spent several years in a juvenile facility as a youth, and he still won. What we do know is that it was very close, so there is no way that it can be demonstrated that the judges pretered Martinez for Gutler for any reasons other than physique. I can assure you that Martinez would have won even if he had killed someone if his physique was much better than Gay's. If Martinez had been clearly better and still lost, then yes, the explanation could only possibly be something political like a criminal record, but this is not the case.
 

  Mass is what the people who attend pro shows wats to see. It is as simple as that. Mass trumps everything else in the eyes of the hardcore fans, and the bottom line is that Gutler had more mass than Martinez by a considerable margin. I don't agree with it, as I like the total package, but this is what the fans want to see. Don't believe me? Look at how many people prefer the bloated, pregnant, soft Coleman of 2003 over the infinitely better 1998 version simply because the former version carried more mass.

  The I.F.B.B judges do have a judging criteria that takes all into consideration: mass, symmetry, structure and hardness, and they do try to apply it, only to be booed by the hardcore fans. Look how the judges are booed every time Markus Ruhl places low in a contest. He places low because he has nothing other than mass, but the crowd want to see mass freaks rewarded, so they boo the judges for trying to apply the criteria and mark Ruhl down for his lack of symmetry, aesthetics, conditioning, etc.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

These are your particular explanations & interpretations, which are not necessarily reality. 

[Pollux]

Integrity and Olympia DO NOT belong in the same sentence.

You can say that again.

[ribonucleic]

Video still doesn't work. Any other ways to see it?

The money quote:

"I guess I'm just stupid, blind, ignorant, and dumb." - Flex Wheeler

[suckmymuscle]

These are your particular explanations & interpretations, which are not necessarily reality. 

  Better than blaming politics for any result you disagree with while supplying no evidence that the decisions were political! for instance, you claim that shawn won te 1994 olympia, when the fact is that it wasn't even close. It's not like Dorian won by 1 point or so. It's far more reasonable to accept the explanation that he won because he carried 60 lbs more muscle than shawn while still having good symmetry and excellent conditioning, rather than because Uncle Joe decided that Dorian should win for commercial reasons you've never explained.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

P.S: Having a white guy win the Olympia is not as PC as having a black guy win it. Having a black guy win the Olympia actually sits better with the general public as far as Joe's image goes than having a white guy win it because it shows that he's not a racist.

[Parker]

Even competitors have always mentioned that the Arnold was better run than the Olympia. It hasn't been the same since 1998...that was the truly the last great suspenseful year.  It's been crappy ever since.

It always will, it is Arnold, we are talking about. Only the best....I think the Arnold should replace the Mr. O as the pinnacle of bodybuilding. If The Morning Show was going to interview a winner, what would have more cache, Mr. Olympia or The Arnold Swartzenegger Classic winner?

[bigdumbbell]

old ben was right when he was on stage and said there'd be a surprise.  the surprise was that the winner lost and jay got the award

[Gino30]

Politics in many of the decisions, including Columbu over Padilla, Yates over various BBs, etc. now this.

Flex Wheeler speaking absolute common sense on this years' crap, after the show:

http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/1192/173/

shut it u dumb-ass muppet......go back to smelling Ronnie's balls or whatever u do

[Trev]

Ronnie got out too late....like three years late. It kinda makes you feel old when you see these people just deteriorate in front of your eyes. Then you have Vince Taylor

Vince Taylor only had 6 weeks prep and still looked as good as most of the top ten line up!! He agrees totally with the concensus on here by the way re the Olympia and wished he had not been injured and had had the time to get into top shape. Sees the poor 2007 line up as a missed opportunity for him and is looking to do some damage in 2008. I think he could show some of these young drug boated guns a thing or 2 next year!!

[slaveboy1980]

Vince Taylor only had 6 weeks prep and still looked as good as most of the top ten line up!! He agrees totally with the concensus on here by the way re the Olympia and wished he had not been injured and had had the time to get into top shape. Sees the poor 2007 line up as a missed opportunity for him and is looking to do some damage in 2008. I think he could show some of these young drug boated guns a thing or 2 next year!!

he needs to bring up his legs (among other things). i doubt he will do that. guy is too old to do any real damage at the mr o.

he should focus on the smaller shows.

when vince was at his biggest in the mid 90s, guy was incredible. (way better than jay has ever been).

[Trev]

Yeh, could crack top 5 again at the 'O' if 2007 is anything to go by. Regardless, Vince is Pure Class.

[HUGEPECS]

if nothing change about the Olympia, it would make more sense to change the name to Mr OlymCrap.