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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2007, 01:39:34 PM »
really? wow. ive never taken that much fish oil before...at the most i have taken 9 grams. (3x3).

i guess more than that would be effective for bulking....by raising test levels/promoting protein synthesis/ preventing fat storage.....but i would think that if you are cutting, as little as3-5 grams daily could be an effective dose...depending on your diet/weighlifting/cardio regimen..

Would actually be better for a cutting diet as the Efa's would help you spare muscle tissue...hence the ketogenic diet/Palumbo's diet
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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2007, 11:22:47 AM »
I usually get around 10g but I am definetly going to increase when I start my cutting diet.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2007, 03:45:00 PM »
i would worry more about the dha and epa content. i would aim for 3 gs and 1.5g of the latter.


10grams a day is a good dose for fat lose. our diet is maxed with omega 6 so i wouldnt worry about ratios etc..


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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2007, 03:45:54 PM »
also, you might want to add in some GLA if your looking for antiinflammatory effect, something like borage or primrose would be great. or just flat out gla.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2007, 07:43:33 PM »
Im about 20 or so a day, but about to increase it.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2007, 09:31:40 AM »
Im about 20 or so a day, but about to increase it.

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whoa you might want to watch out for some real serious sides going beyond 20grams a day. who is advising you?

your looking at erectile difficulty(drugs would offset that), immunosuppression as you need pro inflammatory prostagladins and leukotrienes and potential heart arythimia and tachardyia at that dosage. dont know why you would go above 15 grams, more isnt better.

you need the inflammatory response for a multitude of things. once your get around 30 grams a day your asking for trouble.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2007, 01:24:14 PM »
whoa you might want to watch out for some real serious sides going beyond 20grams a day. who is advising you?

your looking at erectile difficulty(drugs would offset that), immunosuppression as you need pro inflammatory prostagladins and leukotrienes and potential heart arythimia and tachardyia at that dosage. dont know why you would go above 15 grams, more isnt better.

you need the inflammatory response for a multitude of things. once your get around 30 grams a day your asking for trouble.
30 grams of fat a day is asking for trouble? thats 270 calories of fat..or, something like 3 tablespoons of peanut butter. and fish oil is polyuunsaturated fat.


are you sure about what your saying?
because i think your incorrect.

side effects from fat supplementation? at 270 calories?

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2007, 06:29:19 PM »
30 grams of fat a day is asking for trouble? thats 270 calories of fat..or, something like 3 tablespoons of peanut butter. and fish oil is polyuunsaturated fat.


are you sure about what your saying?
because i think your incorrect.

side effects from fat supplementation? at 270 calories?

i didnt say 30 grams of fat i said 30 grams of fish oil which contain high levels of dha and epa. i i posted a host of studies from pubmed that contradict what your saying. im pretty sure about what im saying, that amount of dha and epa around 2.5 and 5 grams is alot and can cause alot of problems in the AA pathway.

different types of fats exhibit diffferent effects in the body. for instance some omega 6's are inflammatory like safflower and shouldnt be consumed while others like borage oil have GLA which is anti-inflammatory yet is 0mega 6. also, borage oil contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids that are unsaturated hence are not hepatoxic, but other PA'S are hepatoxic. your simpleton view of biochemistry is why your not following what im saying about the fat. your simply looking at the type and amount insted of the constituents and their physiology.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2007, 07:20:27 PM »
i didnt say 30 grams of fat i said 30 grams of fish oil which contain high levels of dha and epa. i i posted a host of studies from pubmed that contradict what your saying. im pretty sure about what im saying, that amount of dha and epa around 2.5 and 5 grams is alot and can cause alot of problems in the AA pathway.

different types of fats exhibit diffferent effects in the body. for instance some omega 6's are inflammatory like safflower and shouldnt be consumed while others like borage oil have GLA which is anti-inflammatory yet is 0mega 6. also, borage oil contains pyrrolizidine alkaloids that are unsaturated hence are not hepatoxic, but other PA'S are hepatoxic. your simpleton view of biochemistry is why your not following what im saying about the fat. your simply looking at the type and amount insted of the constituents and their physiology.
hmmmm your argument sounds valid, but i could do without the personal attacks.
im going to look into the dha epa thing..

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2007, 07:48:35 PM »
hmmmm your argument sounds valid, but i could do without the personal attacks.
im going to look into the dha epa thing..

theres no personal attacks, im just saying you have a very simple view of biochemistry. next time you could look through the research and then respond, im not being condesceding but alot of people in this section post stuff that is blatantly false and it only confuses people. this section shouldnt be about opinions imo.

i think thats why sucky etc.. come off stranges sometimes, hes working with facts and science, and others are posting opinions. its makes people with education have to work harder when others spread nonsense. im not saying thats you, you seem like your intelligent and willing to learn, but some post info that could hurt some people.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2007, 08:02:48 PM »
candidate i couldnt find the info i posted,and i dont want to look for it again, but its in a fish oil thread in the the nutrition section, a couple months ago. its has about 7 studies that are worth reading. you can also get some stuff on pubmed, if you set the limit to free full text.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2007, 07:35:32 AM »

i think thats why sucky etc.. come off stranges sometimes, hes working with facts and science, and others are posting opinions.

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Re: How much fish oil?
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2007, 11:30:49 AM »
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haha, strange wasnt the best word. i probably just meant that you and and others(im guilty also) often complicate things with facts etc.. which might be a little more complicated then need be. but i was saying that your suggestions are usually based on fact while others are just talking about personal or anecdotal experience which could get some people in trouble. for instance ive seen some post that echinechea(sp) is good for the immune system, which it is. but they then talk about taking it for months on end and have been without colds. this doesnt bring the light the fact that it is potentially hepatoxic and has known de conditioning effects on immune funciton so is probably dangerous. hope that made my point clear. :D