Bodybuilder afraid of White bread is BS to say the least

[candidizzle]

but its not, its usually on a scale of 1-10 integers, and as you know Candidate, there is alot more to food than a rating - good luck getting an 'energy boost' from carrots.. the sugar in carrots is pretty low, and theres not much to it.. basically water + sugar (and packed full of vitamins).

oh and caloric consumption vs caloric intake is a good place to start if you're looking to lose fat

you made my point for me! the carrot has a high GI, but a low GL.  if you went by the gi, then you WOULD think that you could get an energy boost from a carrot.


YEAH, SURE...   calories in vs. calories out...    how do you take into account protein calories, essential fat calories, carbohydrate calories when uyou have depleted glycogebn stores..?   or how abouteating some almonds in the morning, and then 5 hours later eating a high glycemic meal>?  how does that effect calories in vs. calories out??   HUH???

YOU FUCKING MORON!!!

think about it

[Tombo]

I wasn't contesting your idea really.. lol don't call me a moron thats no way to make freinds now.

I think you're also being a little extreme here Candizzle, i'm always open to advice.. but if you want to number crunch, sure. I'd rather just use a logical system of prescription - e.g. high-moderate GI carb sources before high-extreme energy expenditure activity, and the same soon after, then when activity decreases.. lowering the GI intake, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to think about this.

Oh and, are you trying to make a point by saying carrots can be more significant that most people think while dieting because they are 'high GI'? I highly doubt carrots are something to be afraid of, unless you ate 3lbs of the things.

I suppose our trains of thought are different.. because you want to live as a bodybuilder, i want to live practically.. building muscle is part of my lifestyle, but it isn't my life. I prefer to start the day with a low GI but calorie-dense carb source.. whole wheat cereal and a green tea. I have more problems with my energy levels as it is.. i avoid high GI foods ALWAYS unless it's before or after anything that involves muscle breakdown for me.

[Tombo]

you made my point for me! the carrot has a high GI, but a low GL.  if you went by the gi, then you WOULD think that you could get an energy boost from a carrot.


YEAH, SURE...   calories in vs. calories out...    how do you take into account protein calories, essential fat calories, carbohydrate calories when uyou have depleted glycogebn stores..?   or how abouteating some almonds in the morning, and then 5 hours later eating a high glycemic meal>?  how does that effect calories in vs. calories out??   HUH???

YOU FUCKING MORON!!!

think about it

By the way.. if you eat often, and your diet is fairly rich in carbs and protein then you won't deplete your Glycogen stores for fucks sake, anyone who eats pre and post workout won't have any problems with this, unless you live off pork crackling.

EDIT - I have to ask one more thing in the bolded part, i really do wonder what you're getting at.. are you saying that calories in vs calories out, between sleeping patterns (i.e. a 14-16 hr concious day) isn't a total and final number to be worked off? i know the body doesn't calculate the deficit while sleeping and just 'minus' the fat for the next day, but any shitkicker with half an idea about energy systems knows that individual prescription is just that.. individual, you can't talk specifics here Candidizzle. 

[Alex A]

I think white bread is not nearly as filling as wheat or multigrain. 

[bic_staedtler]

...soooo....


...anybody wanna suggest how many slices of white bread one might have after a workout that would simulate a good insulin response?  Four slices sound about right?