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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2008, 01:01:40 PM »
Why not do SLDL's instead?

Agreed with ngm's suggestion.
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2008, 02:34:23 PM »
Why not do SLDL's instead?

Agreed with ngm's suggestion.

that is also a good suggestion...man on a side note i suck ass at squats and for the life of me cant get my squat up...

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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2008, 03:55:50 PM »
Well I have taken many of the suggestions to heart and believe myself to haev found a reasonable solution; given the fact that I am old, on ZERO carbs and limited caloric intake I was doing too much and not concentrating on the core stuff. So I started yesterday and it was reasonably fast, just as intense and I mentally felt better doing it:

Dumbbell shoulder press x3 (15)
Latpulldown, inverse grip x3 (15)
Dumbbell bench press x3 (15)
Squats (ass to grass)x3 (15)/ Deadlifts x3 (15) (alternating, so since I did squats yesterday I will do deads Monday, etc.)
Crunches x3/Leglifts x3/Calf Raises x3

This way I work every muscle in the body with more or less big compound exercises at high intensity and also cut 15 to 20 unnecesary minutes out of my workout) Yesterday I finished in about 35 minutes...
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2008, 11:23:27 PM »
why the fuck are you going so high intensity on zero carbs? thats stupid as fuck. especaially with the short rest periods.

i love low carb diets. the are the best at losing fat.

BUT

training while on low carbs means= LONG REST SETS, HEAVY WEIGHTS, LOW # OF REPS

or else your going to be losing a shit load of muscle

if you want to train that way, eat 2 apples 30 mins befor eyou train, down some waxy maize afterwards, then go ahead and right back into your low carb diet...

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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2008, 11:25:00 PM »
Well I have taken many of the suggestions to heart and believe myself to haev found a reasonable solution; given the fact that I am old, on ZERO carbs and limited caloric intake I was doing too much and not concentrating on the core stuff. So I started yesterday and it was reasonably fast, just as intense and I mentally felt better doing it:

Dumbbell shoulder press x3 (15)
Latpulldown, inverse grip x3 (15)
Dumbbell bench press x3 (15)
Squats (ass to grass)x3 (15)/ Deadlifts x3 (15) (alternating, so since I did squats yesterday I will do deads Monday, etc.)
Crunches x3/Leglifts x3/Calf Raises x3

This way I work every muscle in the body with more or less big compound exercises at high intensity and also cut 15 to 20 unnecesary minutes out of my workout) Yesterday I finished in about 35 minutes...

Stiff leg deads my man, stiff legs... You're missing out on hamstring development  :P
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2008, 04:49:14 AM »
Stiff leg deads my man, stiff legs... You're missing out on hamstring development  :P

Meh, a few weeks without such won't matter, besides my hams are always sore from regular deads....besides part two, I am too fat to see my hams... ;D
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #31 on: March 03, 2008, 07:17:36 AM »
Stiff leg deads my man, stiff legs... You're missing out on hamstring development  :P

i am a huge fan of deads but up until sat i had never tried the stiff leg version....they are taxing and my hams are absolutely fried but do you think that they work your back just the same as regular deads?

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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2008, 09:34:24 AM »
i am a huge fan of deads but up until sat i had never tried the stiff leg version....they are taxing and my hams are absolutely fried but do you think that they work your back just the same as regular deads?
For bb'ing purposes, IMO they are just as good. I actually wouldn't use regular deadlifts if I would train bb'ing solely.
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2008, 10:58:03 AM »
For bb'ing purposes, IMO they are just as good. I actually wouldn't use regular deadlifts if I would train bb'ing solely.
yea i mean my back felt pretty worked but my hamstrings were fired also i was going light but the light was harder stiff legged then regular i really liked them though and barring any apparent major differences i think i am going to do the stiff legged for a while...

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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2008, 06:31:50 PM »
yea i mean my back felt pretty worked but my hamstrings were fired also i was going light but the light was harder stiff legged then regular i really liked them though and barring any apparent major differences i think i am going to do the stiff legged for a while...
Try going heavy bra, like 6 reps with good form.


Hey Trapezkerl, how's the routine going? You should try some BCAA's to enhance your recovery during and after your workouts.

P.S- what does trapezkerl mean?
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2008, 06:46:09 PM »
Try going heavy bra, like 6 reps with good form.


Hey Trapezkerl, how's the routine going? You should try some BCAA's to enhance your recovery during and after your workouts.

P.S- what does trapezkerl mean?

My original name...just means Traps Guy, because my traps were the first part on my upper body that grew, basically without me doing anything. I will always look like shit because of my genetics but I have spent the last few years trying to even out the traps imbalance. The first year or two I had no arms or shoulder whatsoever BUT I did have traps and it looked horrible.

Of course I take BCAA's...especially before bed.

Routine is going decently...and always between 30 minutes and 45 minutes, which I like...on No Carb, doing more is not that great. However today is a carb loading day...anyway...
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2008, 07:07:52 PM »
My original name...just means Traps Guy, because my traps were the first part on my upper body that grew, basically without me doing anything. I will always look like shit because of my genetics but I have spent the last few years trying to even out the traps imbalance. The first year or two I had no arms or shoulder whatsoever BUT I did have traps and it looked horrible.

Of course I take BCAA's...especially before bed.

Routine is going decently...and always between 30 minutes and 45 minutes, which I like...on No Carb, doing more is not that great. However today is a carb loading day...anyway...
Don't be so hard on yourself stud, once you lose the fat you'll look pretty decent.

why kill yourself with no carb though? A bit too impatient w/ fat loss? Doin any cardio?
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Re: Should HST be totally exhausting and super intense with limited breaks?
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2008, 07:12:53 PM »
Don't be so hard on yourself stud, once you lose the fat you'll look pretty decent.

why kill yourself with no carb though? A bit too impatient w/ fat loss? Doin any cardio?

At the moment, twice a week. I am impatient AND too fat. In some ways no carb is easy. Sure I just eat a little less and like magic the fat comes off; much better than calculating 100 grams or so of carbs and doing all the other nasty diet business.

Meh...IF I get the fat off I will just look like a skinny fuck with bad bone structure....but I can't change that I am tired of being fat.
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