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Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« on: March 06, 2008, 09:48:18 AM »
Hows it going guys. What do you lot think of my bulking, 4 day split? Im 22 years old, weigh 13.5stone and have been training solid for 3 years. My goals are to gain mass/muscle.

Monday – Chest and Abs
Flat Barbell Bench Press 5x5
Incline Dumbell Bench Press 2x8-10
Fly’s 2x8-10
Dumbell Pullover 2x8-10

Crunches 2x25
Leg Raise 2x15
Alternate Sit-Up 2x20
Cable Ab Crunch 2x35

Tuesday – Cardio and Forearms

Wednesday – Back and Shoulders
Single Arm Dumbell Row 2x8-10
Bent Over Row / T-Bar Row 2x8-10
Deadlifts 5x5
Lat Pull Down (Close/Wide Grip) / Wide Grip Chins 2x8-10

Military Press / Shoulder Press 5x5
Upright Row / Front Raise 2x8-10
Lateral Raise 2x8-10
Barbell Shrugs 2x8-10

Thursday - Cardio

Friday – Biceps and Triceps
Close Grip Bench Press 5x5
Standing Barbell Curls / EZ Curl 5x5
Tricep Extension 2x8-10
Alternate Dumbell Curls / Hammer Curls 2x8-10
Skull Crushers 2x8-10
Preacher Curls / Concentration Curl 2x8-10

Saturday - Off

Sunday – Legs
Squats 5x5
Leg Press 2x8-10
Leg Extension 2x8-10
Stiff Legged Deadlifts / Lunges 2x8-10
Leg Curls 2x8-10
Seated Calf Raises 5x15


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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 10:16:11 AM »
Well this ones simple, cut the cardio out and bulking is not nescessarily based on lifting its diet and supplementation.  Am I saying that you dont have to train well maybe as Ronnie currently claims hes 295 and hasn't trained since October

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 10:36:52 AM »
My diet is fine. I just want peoples views on my routine to help me achieve my goals.

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 12:48:23 PM »
You might want to switch a few days around to maximize rest/recovery a little bit more.  You might also want to move deadlifts to a cardio day and combine them with abs.  Just my 2 cents.

Example:

Monday – Back and Shoulders
Single Arm Dumbell Row 2x8-10
Bent Over Row / T-Bar Row 2x8-10
Deadlifts 5x5 (Move to a cardio day with abs)
Lat Pull Down (Close/Wide Grip) / Wide Grip Chins 2x8-10

Military Press / Shoulder Press 5x5
Upright Row / Front Raise 2x8-10
Lateral Raise 2x8-10
Barbell Shrugs 2x8-10

Tuesday – Legs
Squats 5x5
Leg Press 2x8-10
Leg Extension 2x8-10
Stiff Legged Deadlifts / Lunges 2x8-10
Leg Curls 2x8-10
Seated Calf Raises 5x15

Wednesday – Chest and Abs
Flat Barbell Bench Press 5x5
Incline Dumbell Bench Press 2x8-10
Fly’s 2x8-10
Dumbell Pullover 2x8-10

Crunches 2x25
Leg Raise 2x15
Alternate Sit-Up 2x20
Cable Ab Crunch 2x35

Thursday- Deadlifts (8 sets)/Abs


Friday – Biceps and Triceps
Close Grip Bench Press 5x5
Standing Barbell Curls / EZ Curl 5x5
Tricep Extension 2x8-10
Alternate Dumbell Curls / Hammer Curls 2x8-10
Skull Crushers 2x8-10
Preacher Curls / Concentration Curl 2x8-10
Saturday/Sun - Off/cardio/etc.


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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 01:21:16 PM »
how would that maximise recovery mate? if i did chest on weds, i'd be training my triceps again on friday...

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 01:29:05 PM »
How is your diet you say its fine so lets do this write/type everything you eat for the next week and post it on here ,  Keep in mind this is not an attack but a hand in help,  DO this and I will let you know how your diet is maybe then you will be standing on stage next to me at nationals.  ;D

As far as training I agree switching things around

Definetly not straight sets but giant sets you see when you exercise its not the lifting that  makes you bigger infact that tears aminos out of the system the way to go is giant sets and figure out how to place those aminos in even when your working out so that you can grow while you are working out check out some of my other posts on here they might just be lurking around somewhere.

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 01:40:19 PM »
What would you switch around in terms of muscle groups and when would you train them? what do you mean by giant sets? you mean sets to failure...?

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 01:40:42 PM »
I thinks Red's routine would work much better for you if you want to go in 5 days a week. the tris should be fine  with a day of rest. Triceps then chest would be different.  Forearms the day before back is a mistake IMO. I would say three or four days a week is optimal.

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 01:57:49 PM »
5x5 is a good program.

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 02:05:46 PM »
I thinks Red's routine would work much better for you if you want to go in 5 days a week.

I dont understand how it's different in maximising recovery?
Thanks for the opinions guys. What about the exercises, do I need to adjust any?

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2008, 02:06:48 PM »
I dont understand how it's different in maximising recovery?
Thanks for the opinions guys. What about the exercises, do I need to adjust any?
nothing wrong with the program at all, looks like the perfect bodybuilding routine, just eat and rest and get rid of the cardio for now.

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 06:48:51 AM »
how would that maximise recovery mate? if i did chest on weds, i'd be training my triceps again on friday...

I must have really misread your routine, looks pretty good as it is.  I could have sworn you were doing deads the day before legs and triceps the day after shoulders.  Good luck :)

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 07:51:14 AM »
Why all the cardio?? And even funnier, cardio and forearms on the same day LOL

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2008, 06:20:37 AM »
Cardio is good. Whether you're bulking or not, low resistance cardio like brisk walking is good for your body and heart. And whats wrong with training forearms? Weird guy

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2008, 08:17:26 PM »
DONT LISTEN TO THESE GUYS.....CARDIO IS GREAT DURING THE OFFSEASON.

do it every day you dont lift first thing in the morning on an empty stomach...45 mins low intensity. but dont take any cns stimulants before hand.   save those for your workout days.

i wouldnt recommend working out two days in a row, i like the every other day routine best. that way your cns is always fresh when your in the gym. you dont want to train with a damaged cns.


as far as your routine...


Monday – Chest and shoulders
inlcine bumbell press. 2 or 3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
flat bench flys. 2 or 3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
machine bench press. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
cable crossovers. 1 working set to failure
STRETCH
shrugs on the calf machine. 2-3 feel sets. 2-3(yes, thats 2-3 working sets..) working sets to failure.
rear lateral raises. 2-3 feel sets, 1 working set to failure.
side laterals. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
militray press(dumbells). 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set (drop set..run the rack) to failure.
STRETCH




Tuesday – Cardio

Wednesday – Back and biceps
Deadlifts. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
machine pull overs. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
lat pull downs. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
seated cable rows. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
STRETCH
barbell ccurls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
preacher curls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set(drop set...run the rack) to failure
STRETCH


Thursday - Cardio

Friday –Triceps, hammstrings
rope pull downs. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
cg bench press. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
over head dumbell raises(1 dumbell, both hands). 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set(drop set, run the rack)
STRETCH
lygin hamstring curls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
standing hamstring curls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
seated hammie curls. 2-3 feel sets 1 working set to failure.
STRETCH

Saturday - cardio

Sunday – quads, calves
leg extensions 2-3 feel sets
hack squats. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set o failure
front squats on the smith machine. 2-3 feel sets. 1 woring set to failure
one leg press.  2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
Leg Extension. 2 drop sets to failure
STRETCH
Seated Calf Raises 2-3 feel sets. 2 drop sets to failure
STRETCH


there you go.



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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2008, 09:07:51 PM »
DONT LISTEN TO THESE GUYS.....CARDIO IS GREAT DURING THE OFFSEASON.

do it every day you dont lift first thing in the morning on an empty stomach...45 mins low intensity. but dont take any cns stimulants before hand.   save those for your workout days.

i wouldnt recommend working out two days in a row, i like the every other day routine best. that way your cns is always fresh when your in the gym. you dont want to train with a damaged cns.


as far as your routine...


Monday – Chest and shoulders
inlcine bumbell press. 2 or 3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
flat bench flys. 2 or 3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
machine bench press. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
cable crossovers. 1 working set to failure
STRETCH
shrugs on the calf machine. 2-3 feel sets. 2-3(yes, thats 2-3 working sets..) working sets to failure.
rear lateral raises. 2-3 feel sets, 1 working set to failure.
side laterals. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
militray press(dumbells). 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set (drop set..run the rack) to failure.
STRETCH




Tuesday – Cardio

Wednesday – Back and biceps
Deadlifts. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
machine pull overs. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
lat pull downs. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
seated cable rows. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
STRETCH
barbell ccurls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
preacher curls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set(drop set...run the rack) to failure
STRETCH


Thursday - Cardio

Friday –Triceps, hammstrings
rope pull downs. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
cg bench press. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure.
over head dumbell raises(1 dumbell, both hands). 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set(drop set, run the rack)
STRETCH
lygin hamstring curls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
standing hamstring curls. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
seated hammie curls. 2-3 feel sets 1 working set to failure.
STRETCH

Saturday - cardio

Sunday – quads, calves
leg extensions 2-3 feel sets
hack squats. 2-3 feel sets. 1 working set o failure
front squats on the smith machine. 2-3 feel sets. 1 woring set to failure
one leg press.  2-3 feel sets. 1 working set to failure
Leg Extension. 2 drop sets to failure
STRETCH
Seated Calf Raises 2-3 feel sets. 2 drop sets to failure
STRETCH


there you go.




what the fuck is a "feel set" anyways ?

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2008, 09:29:59 PM »
Cardio is good. Whether you're bulking or not, low resistance cardio like brisk walking is good for your body and heart. And whats wrong with training forearms? Weird guy
"Big" ::) guns, for your info, candidizzle has stolen thousands from his family and spent it on cocaine, he's 18 and has already been to rehab, he knows nothing of nutrition or exercise, listen to the other posters, candi(as we call him) is the only one going in a different direction, there is a reason for that, he knows jack shit.



BTW routine looks good, just eat more/less to bulk/lean, no reason to change your workout for that, IMO.
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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2008, 11:07:02 PM »
what the fuck is a "feel set" anyways ?

Isn't that what Jay Cutler calls warm up sets. Brutal copying the pros ::)
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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2008, 11:57:35 PM »
i'd focus more on doing 3-4 sets per exercise, and less exercises. muscular hypertrophy is best with more sets than less. rep range is about right. stick to the basics, and dont bother with things like one arm db rows unless there is an imbalance or u simply dont feel the muscle with regular bb rows. training is simple, but as someone said, the diet really is key. u dont get enough protein, carbs, fats, water, etc = u wont gain muscle.

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Re: Critique my bulking routine and exercises please
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2008, 10:03:09 AM »
Isn't that what Jay Cutler calls warm up sets. Brutal copying the pros ::)
a feel set is totally different from a warm up set. at least, the idea behind it is totally different.

what i mean by feel set is that you use lighter weight than you would normally workout with...and focus completely on isolating the target muscle. so...lets say its lat pull downs...use lkight weight, and ONLY contract your back muscles to move the weight. doing 2-3 sets like this...going a little bit heavier each set.. lets you FEEL how a proper rep is performed, so on your working set you are using the correct muscle for the exercise, NOT using the biceps to pull dow or the rear delts(in referance to lat pull downs).