Pro BBing... During, and after, the DeMilia era

[Meltdown]

Forget how many shows are gone check the amount of Money gone.2008 Ironman 30k over 5places-Arnold Classic $265k+Hummer+Watch over 6places-Australian Pro 20k over 5places- New Zealand Pro 20k over 5places-New York Pro 60k over 5places- Tampa Pro 21k over 5places-Europa Super show 30k over 5places- Atlantic Pro 40k over 5places-Olympia never print what Prize money is before show go figure.So 9shows and without Arnold and Olympia very little cash.As the Hummer was advertised did Arnold give a Hummer this year???.Wayne was Cash for competitors and more shows FACT.

[G o a t b o y]

There are only so many hard-core bodybuilding fans who will spend money to go to a show.  These folks are going to go to the Arnold, the O, or both.  Even they probably won't do more than two shows a year.  I realy don't see how any show beyond these two survives.  Really, other than the LA and NY shows (and there are reasons those particular shows endure), none have.

I'm surprised, though, that there has never been a permanent show somewhere in Europe, since there are probably a lot of European BB fans who would go to a show but who can't afford travel to the US.




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[MB]

I'm surprised, though, that there has never been a permanent show somewhere in Europe, since there are probably a lot of European BB fans who would go to a show but who can't afford travel to the US.

Not having a show in Europe has actually helped the Olympia because fans are more likely to travel to Vegas if they don't have a local option.  If you: (1) change to a cheaper venue, (2) raise ticket prices, & (3) don't hold any shows in Europe, then it looks like the Olympia is thriving with increased prize money and increased attendance, but there's more to it than meets the eye.       

[dantelis]

speak for yourself!


i would LOVE to look like this

in fact, id give up the last 20 years of my life if i could achieve this kind of physique

OR this one

So Candizzle, you are saying you are a common-joe bodybuilder?  No wonder you've never achieved Colemanesque proportions.  You've never put in the time and chemicals to get to his point.

How sad that you'd give up 20 years of your life to look like Ronnie Coleman.  (And if you put in everything that Ronnie has, you probably would give up 20 years of your life, when you die early.)

[timfogarty]

Not having a show in Europe has actually helped the Olympia because fans are more likely to travel to Vegas if they don't have a local option.

so bodybuilding is now only for rich people ?   

[candidizzle]

So Candizzle, you are saying you are a common-joe bodybuilder?  No wonder you've never achieved Colemanesque proportions.  You've never put in the time and chemicals to get to his point.

How sad that you'd give up 20 years of your life to look like Ronnie Coleman.  (And if you put in everything that Ronnie has, you probably would give up 20 years of your life, when you die early.)

hey bro..if you dont like the look, then dont strive for the look,,,  but why knock people that do? how does my desire to improve my physique effect you at all?


to you its 'sad', to me, its uplifting...

[dearth]

because (depsite your denials) pro bodybuilding is on the decline

Hey, it's not easy getting GP shows to work in Europe (or the states for that matter)....if they were successful, they'd all be going into their 14th seasons, etc...

There is a reason they dissappear...

[Meltdown]

FACT

[dantelis]

hey bro..if you dont like the look, then dont strive for the look,,,  but why knock people that do? how does my desire to improve my physique effect you at all?


to you its 'sad', to me, its uplifting...

It doesn't.  Just engaging in the conversation.  If you think working to be the next Ronnie Coleman is a way to "improve your physique," that is your choice.  I think that most people would think that reaching that level of physique isn't an improvement, but a step backwards. 

The Ronnie Coleman physique isn't putting people in the seats at bodybuilding shows (other than the few, hardcore bodybuilders, like you, that want to look like Ronnie).  It is driving them away, hence the loss of contests like the European Grand Prix's

[MB]

Not having a show in Europe has actually helped the Olympia because fans are more likely to travel to Vegas if they don't have a local option.


so bodybuilding is now only for rich people ? 

I met a couple last year who flew in from Australia to see Ronnie's last Olympia.  $2,000 apiece for plane tickets, so you can imagine their total Olympia bill was about $6k.