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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #75 on: September 22, 2008, 01:17:22 PM »
and the over eating of the past doesn`t remotely come close in comparison to what people eat today as well as loading.

I don't buy it.  Of the tens of thousands of bodybuilders prior to the mid 1990s, surely a few of them ate like the top amateur and pros of today.   They were carbo loading back then too.   then suddenly in the mid 90s most of the top pros developed these guts.   now many top amateurs have it.

take away the GH and Insulin, and these guts would disappear.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #76 on: September 22, 2008, 01:28:05 PM »


Bruce Randall got up to 400 pounds to be a super-heavyweight Olympic weightlifter, then dropped down to 190 for bodybuilding.   No protruding stomach.

Just to add, if anyone wants to read more on Bruce Randall you can find more here:
http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/08/how-bruce-randall-trained-randall-rader.html .

It also shows the progression pics from close to a 400lber to a 187lber.
 

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #77 on: September 22, 2008, 07:27:07 PM »
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what happened to bodybuilders making their body look good not gross?

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #78 on: September 22, 2008, 09:10:45 PM »
It is quite funny to see that you guys really doesn't know that, but don't panic, I can help you. You see, when you take some gear like growth hormone etc., it make your muscles grow. All your muscles, meaning every fuc*king muscle in your body. When your stomach muscle grows thicker by training, part of it (external oblique abdominis) can be seen as a six pack, but that isn't all of it. If you look at the anatomy chart, you find out that there is other muscles as well (diaphragm, internal oblique abdominis, psoas major, psoas minor, pyramidalis, quadratus lumborum, rectus abdominis, transversus abdominis), which grows also. There is muscles even in your intestines, which grows when you use gear, so your abdominal cavity is quite full from all that. When you eat or drink some water, it make your stomack look bloated. On the other hand, with that amount of food these guys consume, your belly stretch out, and it is much harder to control in every situation. When you relax, your stomach start to hang out. So simple. When you take some gear, your body can't point the growth factor just for some places, so your body grows as a whole. You can change some priorities by training, but fact is that your muscles grow even without any exercise. Even your heart muscle grows, which eventually make it weaker, but there is always price for everything...     

Jesus, this guy just makes me want to eat lead.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #79 on: September 22, 2008, 11:41:33 PM »
Massive guts are showing up now at your local state show...Slin looks to be the culprit...

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #80 on: September 22, 2008, 11:49:59 PM »
I am 300 in these pics and I don't have a big gut.  My waist was under 37" at this time. 
awesome tits on the first one.  name?

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #81 on: September 23, 2008, 01:14:40 AM »
awesome tits on the first one.  name?

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #82 on: September 23, 2008, 01:23:25 AM »
Insulin.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #83 on: September 23, 2008, 03:11:08 AM »
too many doughnuts
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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #84 on: September 23, 2008, 03:28:50 AM »
no he didn't, i'll GAURANTEE you his waist was at least 38 inches onstage.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #85 on: September 23, 2008, 04:38:49 AM »
What drugs etc. lead to getting huge extended gut like so many bodybuilders have? and how do some pros manage to avoid getting this side effect?


The two biggest guts in history can be seen below.

Those 2 blokes stomuchs look Terrible.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #86 on: September 23, 2008, 12:47:06 PM »
if its insulin why has milos not developed the 'gut' or his athletes  ???
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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #87 on: September 23, 2008, 01:12:25 PM »
if its insulin why has milos not developed the 'gut' or his athletes  ???

you're kidding?  right ?


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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #88 on: September 23, 2008, 01:13:11 PM »
you're kidding?  right ?



no, no gut on hide  ???
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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #89 on: September 23, 2008, 01:20:20 PM »
I bet the difference between his waist in those two pics is a good six inches.   prior to gh and insulin, the pros were able to add significant mass to their legs, chest and arms without increasing the size of their waist.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #90 on: September 23, 2008, 04:07:54 PM »
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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #91 on: September 23, 2008, 05:01:46 PM »
you're kidding?  right ?


Bro you are right it is gh and insulin, no doubt, but must you be a typical net poster when trying to get your point across, one pic shows Hide with a competition number and the other pic is 10 weeks out in the gym, all are waist are 6 inches bigger off season.

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2008, 06:47:12 PM »
Bro you are right it is gh and insulin, no doubt, but must you be a typical net poster when trying to get your point across, one pic shows Hide with a competition number and the other pic is 10 weeks out in the gym, all are waist are 6 inches bigger off season.

first, that's not an off season pic, just a few weeks out.   But he has abs in the second photo.  he's not carrying any significant subcutaneous fat.     so it does show he has a lot more visceral fat.    its kind of hard for athletes to have little subQ but lots of visceral fat, except with the help of insulin.

in the near future, will it become common for bodybuilders to have surgeries to remove both gyno and their omentum ?

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #93 on: September 23, 2008, 07:57:05 PM »
first, that's not an off season pic, just a few weeks out.   But he has abs in the second photo.  he's not carrying any significant subcutaneous fat.     so it does show he has a lot more visceral fat.    its kind of hard for athletes to have little subQ but lots of visceral fat, except with the help of insulin.

in the near future, will it become common for bodybuilders to have surgeries to remove both gyno and their omentum ?
nah. bodybuilders will start wearing corsets. That was Shawn Ray's secret weapon. He would would a corset for the whole off-season.
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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2008, 08:01:13 PM »
first, that's not an off season pic, just a few weeks out.   But he has abs in the second photo.  he's not carrying any significant subcutaneous fat.     so it does show he has a lot more visceral fat.    its kind of hard for athletes to have little subQ but lots of visceral fat, except with the help of insulin.

in the near future, will it become common for bodybuilders to have surgeries to remove both gyno and their omentum ?
I"m just massing with you ;D, I hope not (surgery) I just spent 5 grand on gynocamastia surgery ???

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2008, 09:17:41 PM »
what you talking about big guts
I bet those guys could do a Vacuum better than Frank Zane himself  ::)

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2008, 11:09:01 PM »


all gut and butt

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #97 on: September 23, 2008, 11:40:23 PM »

It's hard to diet away visceral fat. It just hangs around, even when you're lean.

Can't agree with that.  It'll start to go below 15% (yes, I'm guessing).  Var has been demonstrated to attack it well.


Tim - Do you mean insulin INsensitivity, not insulin sensitivity?  I thought GH promoted insulin insensitivity, which is why lots of guys supplement glucophage?

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Re: What Causes the big Guts?
« Reply #98 on: September 23, 2008, 11:52:52 PM »
insulin and growth will cause big gut at higher doses on any human being particularly human beings on aas..ofcourse prolomged use of atleast a year or 2 is needed,,2months will do nothing
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