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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2009, 10:19:05 AM »
Kevin knew that putting endless amounts of oil(not hormones) in your body will catch up to you...Thats why 6 months out of the year he didn't...

Heath's mentor however is Cutler who can be seen in a tank top 360 days out of the year...And rumor has it pumps more bogus oil in his body then Flex Wheeler could ever dream of...

And by the looks of Heath lately, he is doing the same things...Heath may look great over the next 5 years, but after that, he will be done...

Who's pumping the oil, Heath or Cutler?  And yes, Phil is maxing his body out very early on in his career.  I'm predicting a belly in the near future.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2009, 11:09:28 AM »
Levrone was great, but Heath is a new bread.  Heath will win more shows than any other pro....mark my words!

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2009, 11:13:05 AM »
Levrone was great, but Heath is a new bread.  Heath will win more shows than any other pro....mark my words!

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2009, 11:22:18 AM »
I thought Levrone reached his prime in 2000 where he beat Flex and Shawn

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2009, 11:24:29 AM »
I thought Levrone reached his prime in 2000 where he beat Flex and Shawn

Kevin was always prime.  Kevin had many different looks...any of which could wipe the floor with today's top pros.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2009, 01:58:02 PM »
Good thread. Looks like BBing is going backward.. :'(

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2009, 05:19:46 PM »
Good thread. Looks like BBing is going backward.. :'(

It seems that many here believe that to be so.  The guys who came up in the 90s were extremely genetically blessed.  Not only that, bodybuilding was more affordable and more mainstream than it is now.  Something happened at some point where people stopped getting into bodybuilding.  Does the rise of MMA have anything to do with it?  Why has bodybuilding fallen off from where it was just 15 years ago?

Chris had one of the best "X-frames" of all time.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2009, 07:38:01 PM »
Kevin all the way...Plus Kevin never posed like a teenage boy ala Mike Quinn/Phil Heath

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2009, 08:19:56 PM »
Kevin was always prime.  Kevin had many different looks...any of which could wipe the floor with today's top pros.

kevin should have beat demayo in the natinals 91 (1st pic.).. demayo had better legs and calves but kevin beat him in everything else..

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2009, 11:08:21 PM »
It seems that many here believe that to be so.  The guys who came up in the 90s were extremely genetically blessed.  Not only that, bodybuilding was more affordable and more mainstream than it is now.  Something happened at some point where people stopped getting into bodybuilding.  Does the rise of MMA have anything to do with it?  Why has bodybuilding fallen off from where it was just 15 years ago?

Chris had one of the best "X-frames" of all time.

Not only were they more genetically blessed, but remember that the anabolics of the time were still quite clean compared to the stuff that's out there now.  And for the most part, turning pro means immediate status as a drug addicted roid-raging freak...today, most folks are just too smart for that.  Hell, I'm sure I could have at least scored a pro card if I decided to take juice...why bother ruining your health and being labelled by society as a freak when you could just channel your efforts into football, or MMA?  And actually make some money?

Bodybuilding, pro bodybuilding, is dying a slow death.  We go nuts over Heath, and while I think he's great too, Levrone owns him.  So does Shawn Ray.  So do about five other guys from the 90's era whose only obstacle to getting a Sandow was the immovable object Ronnie Coleman.

Who have ya got today?...Heath?  Flex Lewis (who's really getting a push from Weider)...Peter F'ing Putnam?!?!?

All you'd need to get back to the glory days is ONE thing...decriminalizing anabolic steroids and allowing those genetic few to take it to the next level.  Speaking of next levels, the 90's WAS the next level.  There's really no comparison for the overall talent that decade had compared to modern pro bodybuilding.  In my opinion, that is.

MORE drugs...and get to the RIGHT people (thanks Dennis Leary).

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2009, 11:21:00 PM »
Not only were they more genetically blessed, but remember that the anabolics of the time were still quite clean compared to the stuff that's out there now.  And for the most part, turning pro means immediate status as a drug addicted roid-raging freak...today, most folks are just too smart for that.  Hell, I'm sure I could have at least scored a pro card if I decided to take juice...why bother ruining your health and being labelled by society as a freak when you could just channel your efforts into football, or MMA?  And actually make some money?

Bodybuilding, pro bodybuilding, is dying a slow death.  We go nuts over Heath, and while I think he's great too, Levrone owns him.  So does Shawn Ray.  So do about five other guys from the 90's era whose only obstacle to getting a Sandow was the immovable object Ronnie Coleman.

Who have ya got today?...Heath?  Flex Lewis (who's really getting a push from Weider)...Peter F'ing Putnam?!?!?

All you'd need to get back to the glory days is ONE thing...decriminalizing anabolic steroids and allowing those genetic few to take it to the next level.  Speaking of next levels, the 90's WAS the next level.  There's really no comparison for the overall talent that decade had compared to modern pro bodybuilding.  In my opinion, that is.

MORE drugs...and get to the RIGHT people (thanks Dennis Leary).

That is all.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2009, 01:36:26 AM »
I liked his conditioning in '92.  Someone posted a guest posing shot from '93 where he looked incredible.


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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2009, 08:27:52 PM »
At this point in time, it is not even worthy of comparison.
LEVRONE all the way. Maybe Phil will surpass him, but until it happens,
it's all "Horseshit".

Levrone Rules.
Remember Kevin entered the O as a rookie and placed an arguable 2nd place.  I give him all credit for that.   The guy always picked the right music to pose to also  and posed great to it....even at his first Olympia where he lost his original music.
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2009, 08:55:25 PM »
Five years is more then enough time. How long is the average BB career? Any BB thats shooting to beat Lee and Ronnie's record is not being realistic. I would have done the Arnold if I were Heath.

I agree...However Heath will never be able to beat Victor if Victor comes in shape every time...That is of course if they go by every other Olympia(other then Dexters)and bring it down to the back poses to cast the Olympia winner...

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2009, 05:50:47 AM »
I agree...However Heath will never be able to beat Victor if Victor comes in shape every time...That is of course if they go by every other Olympia(other then Dexters)and bring it down to the back poses to cast the Olympia winner...
pHIL will always beat victor ...

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #90 on: February 04, 2009, 08:55:04 AM »
pHIL will always beat victor ...

He hasn't yet, and you have no idea what Victor looks like right now.

Speculation without reason.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2009, 08:25:54 PM »
He hasn't yet, and you have no idea what Victor looks like right now.

Speculation without reason.
Who cares  neither will ever be Mr.O   both will get robbed at times   and miss their timming when it matters.  I see jay and Dex playing ping pong with the Sandow's the next 5 yrs  with a brand new guy taking over!!!
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #92 on: February 09, 2009, 08:37:18 PM »
Who cares  neither will ever be Mr.O   both will get robbed at times   and miss their timming when it matters.  I see jay and Dex playing ping pong with the Sandow's the next 5 yrs  with a brand new guy taking over!!!

Then you are obviously not very bright.

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #93 on: February 09, 2009, 09:46:38 PM »
I would say that Phil is ahead of Kevin for his age.  I think Kevin is one of the top ten body builders of all time, but i also think Phil has a chance to be as well in time if he keeps the progress up.  However, if Phil is still around in 3-4 years then we can compare the two physiques in their prime.  Kevin in his prime is hard to beat, but right now Phil is looking amazing as well.  All Phil needs is to add the thickness and I think he would have Kevin beat, but it will take some time. 

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2009, 09:58:15 PM »
Not bad for only BB for a little more than five years right.  KL cant match that conditioning. If Phil stays in the hobby, keeps making progress like he has shown every year, is injury free and he stays healthy he will retire from BB as one of the best.





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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2009, 11:54:22 PM »
Not bad for only BB for a little more than five years right.  KL cant match that conditioning. If Phil stays in the hobby, keeps making progress like he has shown every year, is injury free and he stays healthy he will retire from BB as one of the best.







Top bodybuilder for sure...Just very immature on stage...Almost to the point of of embarrashment...This guy needs to watch a few Bob Chick/S.Ray video's and learn how to pose...

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2009, 02:04:44 AM »
Kevin & Phil are the best 2 bodybuilders in the history of Bodybuilding.  However, I like Kevin physique more than I do with Phil.   :)

I think in time Phil heath is going to show the world the best physique that the history of bodybuilding ever known and it may be very soon!! Watch out for him in the coming Olympia
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #97 on: February 10, 2009, 02:18:07 AM »
Compare between them for your self  ;)
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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #98 on: February 10, 2009, 03:25:09 AM »
Compare between them for your self  ;)

Phil beats Levrone in that shot but that wasnt Kevin at his best, he only came 4th that contest in 1997.
But people need to remember that Levrone was taller and bigger than Heath

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Re: SERIOUS DISCUSSION: Kevin Levrone vs. Phil Heath
« Reply #99 on: February 10, 2009, 08:20:22 PM »
Phil beats Levrone in that shot but that wasnt Kevin at his best, he only came 4th that contest in 1997.
But people need to remember that Levrone was taller and bigger than Heath

He came 4th but I see him wining that contest  ;)
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