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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2009, 12:51:44 PM »
You know what Hugo - 50% dont even pay taxes so of course they will favor this.  We have become  a nation of welfare receipients.  

When this country falls apart and becomes a marxist state like Cuba or the old USSR, I will not be suprised because I know the writing is on the wall.  

Everyone wants free stuff and expects someone else to pay.  

No wonder we have the fool in the WH.  

Here is the other thing, Hugo - I am not paying for shit, and netiher are my small business clients.  We have already told our accountants to structure our finances and businesses so we dont pay a dime more in taxes to pay for this garbage.  Obama can GFH ten times over for all I care.  He wants to screw me, I am going to screw him right back, and all the freeloading bums who want more of my income.    

I dont give a shit anymore and will not work 70 hours a week or more to pay for some lazy freeloading obese slob who does not want to work for anything.  I'm done.  

Millions and millions out there like me are doing the same thing.  


  

where is your proof of this? You don't have it.  It's made up scare mongering numbers.  You seem to think a majority of americans are unemployed or illegal immigrants or some other nonsense. 
Abandon every hope...

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« Reply #51 on: August 05, 2009, 12:55:06 PM »
Polls today are against it.

Even more interesting. Is that the Democrats that do support it most are more worried about reigning in costs then providing coverage.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/102931/increase-public-pressure-healthcare-reform.aspx#5

http://media.gallup.com/poll/graphs/healthcarereform112907graph15.gif

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121943/Benefits-Healthcare-Reform-Tough-Sell-Americans.aspx
PRINCETON, NJ -- Forty-four percent of Americans believe a new healthcare reform law would improve medical care in the U.S., contrasted with 26% who say it would improve their personal medical care. Forty-seven percent of Americans believe reform will expand access to healthcare in the U.S., while 21% say it will expand their own access to healthcare.

Further to your Post Chavez
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/Majority-Favors-Healthcare-Reform-This-Year.aspx
Majority in U.S. Favors Healthcare Reform This Year
Controlling costs a higher priority than expanding coverage
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- As U.S. House leaders unveil a plan to reform the U.S. healthcare system, a USA Today/Gallup poll finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing major healthcare reform legislation this year. Support for healthcare reform before the end of the year is sharply split along party lines, with 79% of Democrats in favor, compared with only 23% of Republicans.

1. Goals of Reform

Any healthcare reform legislation will likely address the twin problems of covering a large number of uninsured Americans and keeping a lid on quickly rising costs for those who do have insurance. When asked which of the two is the more important goal, the public says, by 52% to 42%, that controlling costs is more crucial than expanding coverage.
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« Reply #52 on: August 05, 2009, 01:16:21 PM »
well, taking a page out of the psycho rightwing playbook.  Since you don't believe in democracy.  Since you want to exclude yourself from the process.  Since you think your minority matters more. You clearly do not love America.  You clearly see such a major fault in America that you won't go along with what the majority wants.  You think they don't matter.  You think you're more important than majority opinion of the American People!  Love it or leave it bro...  Seeya... Maybe you can find a time machine and travel back to some fascist regime that better suits you.  That is a rightwing thing to say, maybe you should follow the advice buddy :D
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« Reply #53 on: August 05, 2009, 01:21:43 PM »
Benny - how is your plate doing? 

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« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2009, 01:25:41 PM »
Benny - how is your plate doing? 
"Oh, Archie!"  ;D

Lot's of pictures...no substance, no brain cells.
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« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2009, 01:29:16 PM »
"Oh, Archie!"  ;D

Lot's of pictures...no substance, no brain cells.


Ill take that as the highest compliment coming from you.

 

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« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2009, 01:35:52 PM »
where is your proof of this? You don't have it.  It's made up scare mongering numbers.  You seem to think a majority of americans are unemployed or illegal immigrants or some other nonsense. 
http://www.taxfoundation.org/publications/show/250.html
The top-earning 25 percent of taxpayers (AGI over $66,532) earned 68.7 percent of the nation's income, but they paid more than four out of every five dollars collected by the federal income tax (86.6 percent). The top 1 percent of taxpayers (AGI over $410,096) earned approximately 22.8 percent of the nation's income (as defined by AGI), yet paid 40.4 percent of all federal income taxes. That means the top 1 percent of tax returns paid more in federal individual income taxes than the bottom 95 percent of tax returns.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1410.html
March 30, 2006
Number of Americans Paying Zero Federal Income Tax Grows to 43.4 Million

by Scott A. Hodge

Fiscal Fact No. 54

With the April 17th deadline for federal tax returns looming, Americans are sharply aware of their federal income tax liabilities. However, one aspect of federal income taxes they may not be aware of is the growing number of Americans who pay zero federal income tax after taking advantage of deductions and credits.

During 2006, Tax Foundation economists estimate that roughly 43.4 million tax returns, representing 91 million individuals, will face a zero or negative tax liability. That's out of a total of 136 million federal tax returns that will be filed. Adding to this figure the 15 million households and individuals who file no tax return at all, roughly 121 million Americans—or 41 percent of the U.S. population—will be completely outside the federal income tax system in 2006.1 This total includes those who pay no tax, and those who pay some tax upfront and are later refunded the full amount of the tax paid or more.
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« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »
yea, go figure... that's an excellent point that goes with what I'm saying.  You just noted the worst of the worst of protestors on the right.  They don't get busted or prevented.  Not the case when you get some lefties protesting.  They get the riot squad treatment, they often get agent provocatuers placed from the police so the riot police can test their toys, and they've been busted several times doing exactly that.  But here, the worst of the worst on the right, no problem...  Even nazis usually get to have their protests often with police protection!!!!  hahaha, really, WTF?
actually huggy bear these ppl protesting at again OUR U.S SOLDIERS FUNERALS are allowed to be there and they know it and is why they continue to show up and disgrace themselves as americans...

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« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2009, 04:59:08 PM »
actually huggy bear these ppl protesting at again OUR U.S SOLDIERS FUNERALS are allowed to be there and they know it and is why they continue to show up and disgrace themselves as americans...

I'm not agreeing with Hugo, but I think you know as well as I that the people protesting at the funerals are not liberals.  In fact, they're protesting the funerals because they believe the soldiers are protecting homosexuality which they are against.  Hardly a lib stand-point.

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« Reply #59 on: August 05, 2009, 05:28:28 PM »
expossed.... ;) 

would have been nice if you were able to answer 1/3 of my questions but... nope :)

Since when has 333386 been known to answer a question in a straightforward manner.
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« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2009, 06:03:29 PM »
Since when has 333386 been known to answer a question in a straightforward manner.
He ducks and weaves so much, he ought to have his own bobble head doll.

HA! :D

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« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2009, 06:25:57 PM »
Since when has 333386 been known to answer a question in a straightforward manner.
He ducks and weaves so much, he ought to have his own bobble head doll.

pot kettle  8) ;D

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« Reply #62 on: August 05, 2009, 07:35:19 PM »
I'm not agreeing with Hugo, but I think you know as well as I that the people protesting at the funerals are not liberals.  In fact, they're protesting the funerals because they believe the soldiers are protecting homosexuality which they are against.  Hardly a lib stand-point.

This has to be a gimmic or an escaped mental patient who has access to a computer.

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« Reply #63 on: August 05, 2009, 07:50:02 PM »
I'm not agreeing with Hugo, but I think you know as well as I that the people protesting at the funerals are not liberals.  In fact, they're protesting the funerals because they believe the soldiers are protecting homosexuality which they are against.  Hardly a lib stand-point.
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« Reply #64 on: August 05, 2009, 08:00:27 PM »
where is your proof of this? You don't have it.  It's made up scare mongering numbers.  You seem to think a majority of americans are unemployed or illegal immigrants or some other nonsense. 

Deuchebag.

STFU.

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« Reply #65 on: August 05, 2009, 08:16:24 PM »
I'm not agreeing with Hugo, but I think you know as well as I that the people protesting at the funerals are not liberals.  In fact, they're protesting the funerals because they believe the soldiers are protecting homosexuality which they are against.  Hardly a lib stand-point.

The Phelps clan, I wouldn't consider them liberal or conservative, they are what I would call functional retards. They are protesting the funerals in hopes of recruiting more asshats into their flock.  Why can they do it without being arrested, well because they get all the necessary permits, dot the i's and cross the t's. fortunatly we have good people like the patriot guard that get between those fuckers and the funeral service

They are atttention whores nothing more nothing less. I can only hope that a semi looses control an plows through one of their stupid ass protests.
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« Reply #66 on: August 05, 2009, 09:05:01 PM »
This has to be a gimmic or an escaped mental patient who has access to a computer.



good one ;)

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« Reply #67 on: August 05, 2009, 10:01:48 PM »


good one ;)

So, lets look at what the studies posted show.  The show the majority of Americans are in favor of healthcare REFORM.  Read that again, that doesn't say the majority of Americans are in favor of the legislation being proposed.  I don't think too many people are in disagreement with the fact that something needs to be done about healthcare, whether that be tort reform, mal practice caps, single payer system, etc.

When will everyone on this board be able to see through the bullshit surveys/polls.

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Re: 333386
« Reply #68 on: August 05, 2009, 10:43:24 PM »
I'm not agreeing with Hugo, but I think you know as well as I that the people protesting at the funerals are not liberals.  In fact, they're protesting the funerals because they believe the soldiers are protecting homosexuality which they are against.  Hardly a lib stand-point.
hmm skip youre right there has been a story as of late to that end but the majority of groups that have been protesting for years are far left loonies brother...

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« Reply #69 on: August 06, 2009, 04:25:27 PM »
hmm skip youre right there has been a story as of late to that end but the majority of groups that have been protesting for years are far left loonies brother...

Who are these groups?  The only organized group I ever hear about is the Westboro Baptist Church (Phelps clan as noted above).

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« Reply #70 on: August 06, 2009, 05:05:25 PM »
Who are these groups?  The only organized group I ever hear about is the Westboro Baptist Church (Phelps clan as noted above).
not necissarily groups skip do a little google search and youll find incidents of this its happend more then a few times here in Tx a number of times groups of bikers would come out and ride around to drown out these jackasses protesting. These ppl were allowed to stay and protest at a fuking funeral of all places and a funeral for our fallen soldiers none the less.

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« Reply #71 on: August 06, 2009, 05:41:51 PM »
not necissarily groups skip do a little google search and youll find incidents of this its happend more then a few times here in Tx a number of times groups of bikers would come out and ride around to drown out these jackasses protesting. These ppl were allowed to stay and protest at a fuking funeral of all places and a funeral for our fallen soldiers none the less.

Alright.  Well, I can't imagine these ass-clowns are part of the regular lib group.  I work for the military and love them to death, but I'm not sure I would put these idiot protesters in with the regular lib crowd.

Calm down George, adults are talking here.

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« Reply #72 on: August 06, 2009, 05:52:59 PM »
Alright.  Well, I can't imagine these ass-clowns are part of the regular lib group.  I work for the military and love them to death, but I'm not sure I would put these idiot protesters in with the regular lib crowd.

Calm down George, adults are talking here.
I dont think i said liberal groups if i did i mispoke but anti war these ppl protesting at the town halls arent necissarily attributed to a certain group. Groups have put out shit saying to go do this type of stuff but that doesnt mean these ppl align themselves with that group only with that line of thinking just like the anti war ppl at the funerals...

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« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2009, 04:58:20 AM »
I dont think i said liberal groups if i did i mispoke but anti war these ppl protesting at the town halls arent necissarily attributed to a certain group. Groups have put out shit saying to go do this type of stuff but that doesnt mean these ppl align themselves with that group only with that line of thinking just like the anti war ppl at the funerals...

They are not a political group, but a fringe hate group who try to provike people to attack them so they can sue for damages.