Hey 333 what happened in the NY-23 race???

[Straw Man]

It's kind of amazing that the Tea Baggers wear their ingorance as a badge of honor.   To them it seems like being ignorant and loud is some sort of good quality yet it only seems to resonate with other brain dead Tea Baggers

Hoffman was basically a Tea Party candidate.  He was completely clueless on the local issues (kind of like Palin on national issues) and thought he could just run on a far right wing social agenda and people would just fall in line.   Luckily the voters were smart enough to realize that Hoffman would be representing the interests of the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck and not the actual constituents on NY 23.

Check this out from a local paper:

Mr. Hoffman had no opinion about winter navigation and widening the St. Lawrence Seaway with their potential environmental damage. He was not familiar with the repercussions of a proposed federal energy marketing agency for the Great Lakes, which could pay for Seaway expansion contrary to district interests.

A flustered and ill-at-ease Mr. Hoffman objected to the heated questioning, saying he should have been provided a list of questions he might be asked. He was, if he had taken the time to read the Thursday morning Times editorial raising the very same questions.[/b]

Coming to Mr. Hoffman's defense, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, who accompanied the candidate on a campaign swing, dismissed regional concerns as "parochial" issues that would not determine the outcome of the election. On the contrary, it is just such parochial issues that we expect our representative to understand and be knowledgeable about, if he wants to be our voice in Washington.

[BM OUT]

Perhaps Palin shouldn't have endorsed him.

Looks like you and her have something in common.  Your predictions never pan out.

If she didnt he wouldnt have gotten 5% of the vote.Just like McCain wouldnt have gotten 20% of the vote without her.Now,perhaps Obama should have stayed FAR away from Virginia and New Jersey as his guys got crushed.

[Soul Crusher]

If she didnt he wouldnt have gotten 5% of the vote.Just like McCain wouldnt have gotten 20% of the vote without her.Now,perhaps Obama should have stayed FAR away from Virginia and New Jersey as his guys got crushed.

I correctly predicted the FAILURE of the stim bill, C4C, the cap & trade garbage, etc.

[BM OUT]

It's kind of amazing that the Tea Baggers wear their ingorance as a badge of honor.   To them it seems like being ignorant and loud is some sort of good quality yet it only seems to resonate with other brain dead Tea Baggers

Hoffman was basically a Tea Party candidate.  He was completely clueless on the local issues (kind of like Palin on national issues) and thought he could just run on a far right wing social agenda and people would just fall in line.   Luckily the voters were smart enough to realize that Hoffman would be representing the interests of the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck and not the actual constituents on NY 23.

Check this out from a local paper:

Mr. Hoffman had no opinion about winter navigation and widening the St. Lawrence Seaway with their potential environmental damage. He was not familiar with the repercussions of a proposed federal energy marketing agency for the Great Lakes, which could pay for Seaway expansion contrary to district interests.

A flustered and ill-at-ease Mr. Hoffman objected to the heated questioning, saying he should have been provided a list of questions he might be asked. He was, if he had taken the time to read the Thursday morning Times editorial raising the very same questions.[/b]

Coming to Mr. Hoffman's defense, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, who accompanied the candidate on a campaign swing, dismissed regional concerns as "parochial" issues that would not determine the outcome of the election. On the contrary, it is just such parochial issues that we expect our representative to understand and be knowledgeable about, if he wants to be our voice in Washington.

This is whats so amusing about you libs.You can call names like "TEA BAGGERS" [OF COURSE never TO ANYONES FACE !!!!!!!!]but you get all upset if I call Obama a spook.Lets see,calling people a name that implys they like balls on chin,or calling a black a guy a slur thats been in exisance for a hundread years?Id say you people are the biggest bunch of thin skinned babies Ive ever seen.

[LurkerNoMore]

I correctly predicted the FAILURE of the stim bill, C4C, the cap & trade garbage, etc.

Oh... what about your predictions of the 9-12 numbers, the Obama thesis, NY-23, America becoming Zombieland USA with the survival of the fittest going on, Palin's future in politics, etc.. etc.. etc..

[Soul Crusher]

It's kind of amazing that the Tea Baggers wear their ingorance as a badge of honor.   To them it seems like being ignorant and loud is some sort of good quality yet it only seems to resonate with other brain dead Tea Baggers

Hoffman was basically a Tea Party candidate.  He was completely clueless on the local issues (kind of like Palin on national issues) and thought he could just run on a far right wing social agenda and people would just fall in line.   Luckily the voters were smart enough to realize that Hoffman would be representing the interests of the Tea Baggers and Glenn Beck and not the actual constituents on NY 23.

Check this out from a local paper:

Mr. Hoffman had no opinion about winter navigation and widening the St. Lawrence Seaway with their potential environmental damage. He was not familiar with the repercussions of a proposed federal energy marketing agency for the Great Lakes, which could pay for Seaway expansion contrary to district interests.

A flustered and ill-at-ease Mr. Hoffman objected to the heated questioning, saying he should have been provided a list of questions he might be asked. He was, if he had taken the time to read the Thursday morning Times editorial raising the very same questions.[/b]

Coming to Mr. Hoffman's defense, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, R-Texas, who accompanied the candidate on a campaign swing, dismissed regional concerns as "parochial" issues that would not determine the outcome of the election. On the contrary, it is just such parochial issues that we expect our representative to understand and be knowledgeable about, if he wants to be our voice in Washington.

And he still got 46% in a district that voted for obama after only 30 days of campainiging and no previous experience.  The dem got 49%.  If you are trying to say this was some massive win or loss either way you are delusional.   

[Soul Crusher]

Oh... what about your predictions of the 9-12 numbers, the Obama thesis, NY-23, America becoming Zombieland USA with the survival of the fittest going on, Palin's future in politics, etc.. etc.. etc..

I did not predict anything, I was reporting what i read on tyher 9/12 numbers.

Obama's thesis is still under wraps because HE REFUSES TO RELEASE IT! 

NY-23 was close and only three points apart.

America is breaking down piece by piece.  Maybe not where you live, but many areas UE and crime are rising fast as well as ghost malls and empty shopping centers. 

Palin has a bright future no matter what she does.     

[LurkerNoMore]

"Getting bigger by the day"

Referring to your predictions.

[Soul Crusher]

"Getting bigger by the day"

Referring to your predictions.

Yes it is.  Thousands went to DC today after Bachmanns call this week.  VA & NJ got rid of dems.  Nassau and Westchester got rid of dems. 

2010 is going to be a bloodbath.  Count on it.   

[headhuntersix]

Welll two asskickings out of 3 aren't bad....liberals will be swept upon the shitheap of history as Obama continues to flail along.

[240 is Back]

is he the candidate that beck campaigned for and gave airtime to his cause and worked like crazy to get his viewers to campaign, vote, and donate, and work for?

Cause if so, it was a failure.  If not, okay.

[headhuntersix]

Alot of people endorsed him but it was a little late. He had great core beliefs but wasn't a polished candidate nor did the fact that Chunky Monkey had the gaul to endorse the Dem.

[240 is Back]

Alot of people endorsed him but it was a little late. He had great core beliefs but wasn't a polished candidate nor did the fact that Chunky Monkey had the gaul to endorse the Dem.

i'm saying that if Beck talked about the guy on the air - that's better than any endorsement.  It's free tv advertising for a motivated right wing base.

But we can't expect that much from beck.  He's a big ratings guy, but 8/10 of 1% of Americans watch him at his peak.  Not a huge number.

[Straw Man]

And he still got 46% in a district that voted for obama after only 30 days of campainiging and no previous experience.  The dem got 49%.  If you are trying to say this was some massive win or loss either way you are delusional.  

3333 - who are you trying to kid.  If Hoffman had won you would have started 30 threads about it, written all in CAPs and called "ground zero" etc....

You know this was a symbolically significant race due to the fissure in the Republican party and the fact that this district hasn't been Democratic for 140 years.

btw - why can't you teabagging ultra conservatives find someone who at least knows the f'ng issues and if you want to appeal the majority of the electorate that is sane try finding someone who doesn't call Glenn Beck their mentor

[MCWAY]

Welll two asskickings out of 3 aren't bad....liberals will be swept upon the shitheap of history as Obama continues to flail along.

Keep in mind. Owens is only there temporarily, to serve the remaining term of the outgoing Congressman.

What's going to happen, when Owens has to run against a GOP candidate with full, solid support behind him and WITHOUT a "RINO", gumming up the works?

[MCWAY]

3333 - who are you trying to kid.  If Hoffman had won you would have started 30 threads about it, written all in CAPs and called "ground zero" etc....

You know this was a symbolically significant race due to the fissure in the Republican party and the fact that this district hasn't been Democratic for 140 years.

btw - why can't you teabagging ultra conservatives find someone who at least knows the f'ng issues and if you want to appeal the majority of the electorate that is sane try finding someone who doesn't call Glenn Beck their mentor

He's not downplaying the significance of the race. But, as he and I pointed out, Owens is a temporary fill.

The downplaying is coming from the left, especially by Pelosi, trying to dismiss the fact that Deeds got destroyed in VA, and Corzine got cut in NJ.

Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.

[Soul Crusher]

He's not downplaying the significance of the race. But, as he and I pointed out, Owens is a temporary fill.

The downplaying is coming from the left, especially by Pelosi, trying to dismiss the fact that Deeds got destroyed in VA, and Corzine got cut in NJ.

Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.

Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.

Not true!  Obama's presence sunk these candidates.  Obama is quickly becoming like kryptonite.     

[LurkerNoMore]

2010 is going to be a bloodbath.  Count on it.   

Oooohhhh more of your famous predictions.

I will mark my calendar to be here the day after to laugh in your face and listen to all your excuses and spin.

[Soul Crusher]

Oooohhhh more of your famous predictions.

I will mark my calendar to be here the day after to laugh in your face and listen to all your excuses and spin.

How is the UE rate doing? 

[Straw Man]

He's not downplaying the significance of the race. But, as he and I pointed out, Owens is a temporary fill.

The downplaying is coming from the left, especially by Pelosi, trying to dismiss the fact that Deeds got destroyed in VA, and Corzine got cut in NJ.

Obama's multiple appearances in those states, stumping for those candidates has virtually no effect.

The fact is that Corizine was hugely unpopular in NJ and was getting killed in the polls and actually gained support after Obama showed up (this is a fact)

Deeds ran away from Obama and ran against his agenda and lost more and more support throughout the campaign

[MCWAY]

The fact is that Corizine was hugely unpopular in NJ and was getting killed in the polls and actually gained support after Obama showed up (this is a fact)

Deeds ran away from Obama and ran against his agenda and lost more and more support throughout the campaign

The independent running in that race made it closer for Corzine. Otherwise, he would have been blown out.

McConnell ran MUCH FARTHER AWAY from Obama and his agenda than Deeds did. Yet, he cruised to victory.

[Straw Man]

The independent running in that race made it closer for Corzine. Otherwise, he would have been blown out.

McConnell ran MUCH FARTHER AWAY from Obama and his agenda than Deeds did. Yet, he cruised to victory.

Corzine had an abyssmal approval rating and no one expected him to win.

He didn't keep his campaign promises to reduce corruption and taxes.

of course McConnell ran against the Obama agenda - he's the Repub

Deeds was trying to run on McConnell's platform and it didn't work

[LurkerNoMore]

How is the UE rate doing? 

I am employed and always will be in my line of work, so I don't follow that.