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stone_cold_steve

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combining strenghth and endurance
« on: January 17, 2010, 09:43:41 AM »
Gentlemen

Is it a good idea to combine strength training (5 sets of 5 on powerlifting  movements)  with muscle endurance training (+ 15 reps on the isolation exercises.)

something like:

day 1
chest
- incline bench 5X5
- dumbell press 5X5
- flys 3X15
shoulder
- push press 5X5
- side raises 15X3
tris
- skull crushers 5X5
- dips 3X...

day 2
rest

day 3
legs
- squats 5X5
- leg raises 3X15
back
- barbell rows 5X5
- dumbell rows 5X5
- chinups 3X...
bi's
- preacher curls 5X5
- dumbell curls 3X15

day 4
rest

repeat

Would something like this work??
what's your idea on this

thanx
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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 11:25:25 AM »
that looks good,,,
sure you can mix them together...
they used to call them pump sets or feeder sets...
iso moves oughta be higher reps anyway,,, there iso moves not strength moves... compounds can go low or high rep depending on desired goal,,, iso moves always oughta be moderate to higher rep.

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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 06:58:01 PM »
Gentlemen

Is it a good idea to combine strength training (5 sets of 5 on powerlifting  movements)  with muscle endurance training (+ 15 reps on the isolation exercises.)

something like:

day 1
chest
- incline bench 5X5
- dumbell press 5X5
- flys 3X15
shoulder
- push press 5X5
- side raises 15X3
tris
- skull crushers 5X5
- dips 3X...

day 2
rest

day 3
legs
- squats 5X5
- leg raises 3X15
back
- barbell rows 5X5
- dumbell rows 5X5
- chinups 3X...
bi's
- preacher curls 5X5
- dumbell curls 3X15

day 4
rest

repeat

Would something like this work??
what's your idea on this

thanx

good idea for what? what are your goals? sure you can do 15 reps on side laterals but i think 8-12 (on isolation exercises) will in general work better if muscle mass is your primary goal.

the workout routine is unbalanced and kinda weird. your elbows probably wont like 5x5 on skullcrushers either. no need to do 5x5 for more than one movement per body part. specially not if your talking about 5x5 with same weight in all the sets.

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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 09:32:37 PM »
As long as you are getting stronger... right? 





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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 08:56:47 AM »
Actually PL'ing movements can become endurance movements. You do not have to do the sissy stuff like higher rep lateral raises, flys, leg extensions, etc. when it comes to building any serious endurance and size. You want stamina (strength plus endurance) which is bests achieved through compound movements rather than single joint movements.

Example: clean & press for 12 to 15 reps. You will get bigger, stronger and increased stamina to a higher level than you may have ever thought. Other, more serious compound exercises, would be DL's, squats, push/jerk presses off a rack, etc. Click it up a bit more and do the 20 rep breathing system to any of the above exercises. Higher reps can build size if planned the right way.

S_C_S is thinking of the old heavy-light system with the 5X5 strength phase combined with the more of a higher rep BB'ing phase. Some alternate this from workout to workout. One day heavy 5X5's. Next workout lighter BB'ing movements. In any event keep the exercise to a very few. Only have to try any of this to see the results you may get. Good luck.
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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 02:25:33 PM »
Thanks a lot for the feedback everybody.

If I only do compound movements and alternate 5X5 one training and 12-15 the next,
- how much sets per exercise when I do 12-15
- how many times can you workout per week?

again... thanx
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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 07:56:47 PM »
I like to do a mix of high- and low-rep lifts during the same workout, don't see why not.

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Re: combining strenghth and endurance
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2010, 03:13:36 AM »
I think that top program is too much,  If you want strength and endurance I would recommend a program like 10 x 3.