There Will Be No Where To Run Form The New World Order Government

[OzmO]

nice cop out lol... So the leader of the free world, President of the United States, openly pushes this shit and you're like telling us we've got nothing... Way LOL ahahahaha...  You're a real fucking hack huh?  I never really had you made out for it, but well here you are....

Not up to it, huh Hugo?

Ask some questions and the best you can do is cop a ridicule like attitude.

Nice job ass hole.  

[Hugo Chavez]

Not up to it, huh Hugo?

Ask some questions and the best you can do is cop a ridicule like attitude.

Nice job ass hole.  

answer my fucking questions you cock sucking magot.

[OzmO]

answer my fucking questions you cock sucking magot.

Very mature.  

If you can control yourself with digressing yourself into this, maybe we can have a good informative discussion.  But you've come into this with ridicule in your blood when i openly asked for a calm discussion.  So if this is what this is about from you. Forget it.  

I really didn't think your argument was this weak that you'd have to lower yourself to this.  

[Skip8282]

I remember back in the 80's there was talk of a single currency in Europe, where we lived at the time.  I told my dad about it and he dismissed it outright and said that the Germans would never give up their currency.  Haha, so much for that.

I don't know if we're progressing towards a single world government, but I don't think the idea can be outright dismissed.  To me, there a clearly a number of indications posted by Hugo, 33, and others that would seem to suggest that, at least over time, it's very possible that we could be moving slowly towards a NWO.  And, it might be something that never pans out, but it's still worth discussion, IMO.

[loco]

Europe just elected their first "President of Europe."

[OzmO]

So what powers does the new European President have?

From Wiki:

From 1975 to 2009, the head of the European Council was an unofficial position (often referred to as President-in-Office) held by the head of state or government of the member state holding the semiannually rotating Presidency of the Council of the European Union at any given time.

The president's role is largely administrative, coordinating the work of the European Council, organising and chairing its meetings, and reporting to the European Parliament after each meeting; the president will also "at his level and in that capacity, ensure the external representation of the Union on issues concerning its common foreign and security policy, without prejudice to the powers of the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security".[16] Some overlap between the roles of the President of the European Council, the President of the Commission, and the High Representative—notably in foreign policy—leaves uncertainty about how much influence the President of the European Council will acquire. There is further concern over whether the President will have sufficient personnel and resources to fulfil the duties of the post effectively and that, in lacking a ministry, the President might become a "play ball" between EU leaders.[17]

Privileges of office

The Résidence Palace in Brussels is under renovation to become the European Council's new headquarters.
Formal negotiations on the salary and privileges of the permanent presidency began in April 2008 as part of the draft of the 2009 EU budget. The ideas were that the President would have got the same treatment as the President of the Commission. With regard to salary, this would be €270,000, although at the end it was fixed to €350,000.[18]

The President receives a chauffeured car and around 20 dedicated staff members. He also has a housing allowance, rather than an official residence which was considered "too symbolic". Likewise, the idea of a private jet was also rejected for being symbolic and, as one diplomat pointed out, a discrepancy in privileges between the European Council and Commission presidents may only fuel rivalry between the two.[18]

[Soul Crusher]

This is how it starts O. 

Do you really think that they are going to come right of of the box with a full dictatorship?   

[OzmO]

This is how it starts O. 

Do you really think that they are going to come right of of the box with a full dictatorship?   

It looks like a figure head only. 

What's your time line for this NWG?  When do you think this will come to completion?

And why haven't you addressed the questions I asked you in response to your lists?

There have always been people pushing stuff like this.  It's nothing new.   Did Obama sign anything that would propel us in that direction?  Even if he did, it has to get through congress right?  Or is it just at last a uncensored platform for these nutjob's agenda?

I hear what you guys are saying, but "green" police hasn't happened yet.  Does it look like it will?  Will the USA allow themselves to be under their watch?

What do you think will happen in this country if paying taxes to a world organization is proposed?  The people will NEVER go for it, dems and repubs.  The only who will are tree huggers.

[Skip8282]

What do you think will happen in this country if paying taxes to a world organization is proposed?  The people will NEVER go for it, dems and repubs.  The only who will are tree huggers.

That's the point I was trying to make with my post, Oz.  Back in the 80's, a single currency sounded ridiculous to my dad and he claimed it would never happen.  There was no specific date back then, no talk of a "Euro", ...just talk.  Now?

Let's just say hypothetically, we project out 50 years.  And 50 years from now the "world court" is much more active and much more empowered.  And, let's say they get some type of green movement hammered out at that time, but we're still a sovereign nation.  Then, the green movement and the world court say to nations, well, we need more money to carry out our tasks.  So, the individual governments turn to the populace and say we're just going to tax each person a small $1.00 to pay for all these services.  Then project out another 50 years and so on...

I don't know if that will be the reality, but it's certainly something we can reasonably consider as we see these elements progressing in the present.  It may never turn out to be that way, but I think it's something worth considering.

[OzmO]

That's the point I was trying to make with my post, Oz.  Back in the 80's, a single currency sounded ridiculous to my dad and he claimed it would never happen.  There was no specific date back then, no talk of a "Euro", ...just talk.  Now?

Let's just say hypothetically, we project out 50 years.  And 50 years from now the "world court" is much more active and much more empowered.  And, let's say they get some type of green movement hammered out at that time, but we're still a sovereign nation.  Then, the green movement and the world court say to nations, well, we need more money to carry out our tasks.  So, the individual governments turn to the populace and say we're just going to tax each person a small $1.00 to pay for all these services.  Then project out another 50 years and so on...

I don't know if that will be the reality, but it's certainly something we can reasonably consider as we see these elements progressing in the present.  It may never turn out to be that way, but I think it's something worth considering.

Thanks.

So, it's something to beware of, especially IF things like the green police become reality?

[SAMSON123]

This is how it starts O. 

Do you really think that they are going to come right of of the box with a full dictatorship?   

I guess that is what this fool thinks and wants. If it was to happen in this fashion I would like to see and know what he would do. Easy to mouth off and demand twelve tons of information to prove water is wet...It will be another matter when even parting your lips to the NWO rulers will cause your skull to be cracked. Make yourself and others aware while there is still time Ozmo, you remind me of the dumb parents who deny their child's drug abuse problem until the child overdoses and then all of a sudden they speak up saying i thought there might have been something troubling him.

[Hugo Chavez]

Very mature.  

If you can control yourself with digressing yourself into this, maybe we can have a good informative discussion.  But you've come into this with ridicule in your blood when i openly asked for a calm discussion.  So if this is what this is about from you. Forget it.  

I really didn't think your argument was this weak that you'd have to lower yourself to this.  

then don't bait it you freaking loser.  You're freaking insane.  You're the moronic jackass that's actually trying to say we don't have anything an it's not a big deal when the president of the united states wants this.  fuck you!

[loco]

So what powers does the new European President have?

From Wiki:

From 1975 to 2009, the head of the European Council was an unofficial position (often referred to as President-in-Office) held by the head of state or government of the member state holding the semiannually rotating Presidency of the Council of the European Union at any given time.

The president's role is largely administrative, coordinating the work of the European Council, organising and chairing its meetings, and reporting to the European Parliament after each meeting; the president will also "at his level and in that capacity, ensure the external representation of the Union on issues concerning its common foreign and security policy, without prejudice to the powers of the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security".[16] Some overlap between the roles of the President of the European Council, the President of the Commission, and the High Representative—notably in foreign policy—leaves uncertainty about how much influence the President of the European Council will acquire. There is further concern over whether the President will have sufficient personnel and resources to fulfil the duties of the post effectively and that, in lacking a ministry, the President might become a "play ball" between EU leaders.[17]

Privileges of office

The Résidence Palace in Brussels is under renovation to become the European Council's new headquarters.
Formal negotiations on the salary and privileges of the permanent presidency began in April 2008 as part of the draft of the 2009 EU budget. The ideas were that the President would have got the same treatment as the President of the Commission. With regard to salary, this would be €270,000, although at the end it was fixed to €350,000.[18]

The President receives a chauffeured car and around 20 dedicated staff members. He also has a housing allowance, rather than an official residence which was considered "too symbolic". Likewise, the idea of a private jet was also rejected for being symbolic and, as one diplomat pointed out, a discrepancy in privileges between the European Council and Commission presidents may only fuel rivalry between the two.[18]

This is only the beginning.  That is how it all starts.

Years ago, the US Federal government did not have nearly as much power as it has now.

Years ago, the president of Venezuela did not have nearly as much power as he has today.  A Venezuelan president could stay in office no longer than five years and only for one term at a time, no re-elections, no consecutive terms.  Then came Hugo Chavez and he gradually changed the Venezuelan constitution, one little change at a time.  Look at where he is now, on his second term in a row and now it looks like he will stay in power for the rest of his life.

[OzmO]

then don't bait it you freaking loser.  You're freaking insane.  You're the moronic jackass that's actually trying to say we don't have anything an it's not a big deal when the president of the united states wants this.  fuck you!

Dude, you seriously have anger issues and act like little spoiled child.  Serious.  Look at you, look at the way you are acting.  You are pathetic.

GROW UP.  Act like an adult.  I have yet to see some one as petty as you and overly sensitive as you.

Or better yet go outside and stare at more chem trails determining their altitudes by sight and pretend you aren't some ignorant jackass with a tin foil hat.

[OzmO]

This is only the beginning.  That is how it all starts.

Years ago, the US Federal government did not have nearly as much power as it has now.

Years ago, the president of Venezuela did not have nearly as much power as he has today.  A Venezuelan president could stay in office no longer than five years and only for one term at a time, no re-elections, no consecutive terms.  Then came Hugo Chavez and he gradually changed the Venezuelan constitution, one little change at a time.  Look at where he is now, on his second term in a row and now it looks like he will stay in power for the rest of his life.

I don't see Obama or anyone else changing the constitution yet.  Haven't seen them really try.  I think you are right, however, it is a path that can lead to something like what everyone is talking about.  The difference is, however, it that we are talking about numerous whole countries versus changes in the inter workings of just one country.

[MB_722]

Just stop posting.  It's for the best...........

what?

[Fury]

Dude, you seriously have anger issues and act like little spoiled child.  Serious.  Look at you, look at the way you are acting.  You are pathetic.

GROW UP.  Act like an adult.  I have yet to see some one as petty as you and overly sensitive as you.

Or better yet go outside and stare at more chem trails determining their altitudes by sight and pretend you aren't some ignorant jackass with a tin foil hat.

Ouch!

When in doubt, Hugo (much like his Samson gimmick) ignores facts and resorts to ridiculing and name calling. Much like your everyday fourth grader.

[loco]

I don't see Obama or anyone else changing the constitution yet.  Haven't seen them really try.  I think you are right, however, it is a path that can lead to something like what everyone is talking about.  The difference is, however, it that we are talking about numerous whole countries versus changes in the inter workings of just one country.

Obama or any president of the US does not have to change the constitution.  All he has to do is sign a world agreement that gives a world organization power over the US, or any sovereign country.  Once the agreement is signed, there is no turning back.  For example, the US joined the World Trade Organization a while back.  Now the WTO tells the US what to do when it comes to trade.  The WTO can tell Americans that they can't buy only American.  You see that? The WTO can tell you what to buy and what not to buy.

President Obama to water down 'Buy American' plan after EU trade war threat

The European Union warned the US yesterday against plunging the world into depression by adopting a planned “Buy American” policy, intensifying fears of a trade war.

The EU threatened to retaliate if the US Congress went ahead with sweeping measures in its $800 billion (£554 billion) stimulus plan to restrict spending to American goods and services.

The European Commission’s powerful trade department, a bastion of open markets formerly headed by Lord Mandelson, said yesterday that the “Buy American” clause was “the worst possible signal” that could be sent to world trade.

The Commission believes that the US move would violate international trade rules policed by the Geneva-based World Trade Organization (WTO)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article5655115.ece

And that's just one example.