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check out my new program
« on: January 11, 2010, 12:08:27 PM »
Ive combined a little DC and a little H.S.T. into a program that i think would work for me. I am looking for suggestions pertaining to the order and exercise choices, to make it more fluid. let me know what you think.



Monday (exercises are one to two work sets)

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Deadlift

pulldowns (alt w/n grip everyweek)

leg extensions

seated leg curls

decline bench

flies

barbell shrug

Kai Press (reverse grip barbell front raise)

Db lat raise

incline rear arnold's(crossbody rear delt raise)

Db curl

Tricep extension

Seated Calf Raise

Ab core



Wednesday

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Inc bench

Flat bench

chins

T-bar rows

Leg Press

lying leg curl

Upright rows

military press

machine lateral raise

machine rear fly

Hammer curl (alt cross hammers weekly)

db kickbacks

calf roller

Dragon leg lift



Friday

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Squats

Stiff leg Deadlift

Seated rows (alt w/n weekly)

haney's (reverse grip, bent db rows)

Flat bench DB press

Incline db fly

Db shrug

Db shoulder press

Reverse cable crossover (rear delt)

Arnold Press (front press supined to pronated)

single arm cable curl

Palumbo's (rev grip cable tricep extension)

standing calf raise

roman chair leg lifts



Wk 1  15rm

wk 2  15rm plus 5 or ten lbs

wk 3  12rm

wk 4  10rm

wk 5  8rm

wk 6  5rm
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Re: check out my new program
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 06:26:38 PM »
Have you ever actually done HST or DC routine before you decided to mess with them?

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2010, 06:37:51 PM »
Yes I have done a bit of both. And I really shouldn't of even mentioned either of the names. I don't want to lead people astray and think they'd be following THOSE programs cause they wouldn't be. I'm not trying to invent something here, I'm just trying to blend what I feel are some of the best parts of the two things that worked the best for me. The main problem was schedule I guess. I simply made up a routine that could fit my schedule. Just seeing if anyone had suggestions on particular exercises or order to keep the work out fluid, and to hit the right exercises first.
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2010, 06:55:40 PM »
I did DC for about 8 weeks, I did a standard two way split. After the 5 movements that I was supposed to do that workout I was spent, especially legs after the widowmaker set. Never tried HST but I know that DC is all about pushing your self beyound what you have ever done before on those rest pause sets and straight sets.you have like 13 different movements for each workout there is no way in hell you can put that kind of effort that is required to make a program like DC work with that many exercises. The common theme among the two programs is higher frequency and lower volume, you got the higher frequency part down but the volume is really high. You can easily chop 2/3 of the movements. Now I know you said that you are simply taking things that you liked from each program, but you first have to realize what is it that makes those programs work in the first place.

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Re: check out my new program
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2010, 08:26:11 PM »
Deadlifts should be done on a day all by themselves-- maybe a few 'assistance' lifts if you feel obligated.


And don't ever name anything "Kai"...

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 12:13:09 AM »
Yev33- I can see what you mean, maybe it's just me subconciously
 trying to get back to high volume training (what I started with). Dc should really not have been mentioned ( neither one should've  for that matter) but I really liked it especially the extreme stretching. H.S.T. It seems is perfect, all I was missing was the feeling of hitting every single muscle and a third wrkout instead of 2b to accomodate that. So I guess it's not really like either but it's what seems like the perfect blend for me.
Dylsexia- that's just who I saw doing them when I learned about them. It seemed easier than saying "reverse grip front barbell raise". Probably got them from Glass so I guess it's rfgbbr or glass raisers. Lol
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 02:26:23 PM »
if you like the extreme stretches then you can do them with any program you want. If you are natural I would really be careful with how much volume you do, i know I can't handle a ton of volume and make progress. See people are brain washed into hitting each muscle form every angle every time you train it. Instead they should be smarter about their training, for example if your upper chest sucks just do an incline movement instead of doing flat benches, incline benches, flyes, etc., all in one workout. You have the right idea about training only three days a week, most naturals will make the best gains on 3 to 4 days a week of training. So the important thing is just do the big compound mnovements and progress on them as far as weight on the bar is concerned, and pick movements that will bring up your weak points. If you are new to training and need to bring up your whole body just focus on the big movements like squats, deadlifts, benches, dips, chins, overhead presses, barbell rows etc., if you are on a program that will consistently allow you to add weight to those movements and progress on them your will put on muscle. Also if you are doing deadlifts on an upper body day, I would recommend putting them last. I have found that putting them last doesn't hurt your performance on them, but putting them first will hurt your performance on all your consequent upper body movements, especially back excercises.

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 03:22:00 PM »
Yeah,I am natty. I believe in high intensity low volume, but the problem is when I began training hard in the fall of 06 I worked high intensity/high volume. It feels weird to me to not be excrutiatingly sore for a good 3or 4 days. Good idea with the deads in putting them last, my workout partners grips were pretty much done after the first few exercises.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2010, 07:54:02 AM »
Well i've tried to explain that i don't think that the program you have laid out is any good. But Ill put it simply, there is way too many excercises. But you sound hell bent on doing it and I think it will be a good learning expirience for you. Just remember one thing, any program that you are on, should allow you to make strength increases just about every single workout. Whether it's getting more reps with the same weight or getting more weight for the same reps. If after eight weeks you have not gotten any stronger, you either didn't recover properly between workouts ( nutrition, sleep ) or your program is not working.

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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 12:05:07 PM »
thanks for your input, sincerely. I guess i am kinda hell bent on doing it, its a six week run, I guess I'll see at the end. I appreciate the comments.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2010, 07:06:44 PM »
No problem man, give it a run and see how it works out