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Kazan

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Re: Obama: Parties must 'transcend petty politics'
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2010, 11:36:20 AM »
That is your opinion. 

Oh really? Show me in the constitution where is specifically says the federal government has any say on healtcare. I fucking dare you to produce something.
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Re: Obama: Parties must 'transcend petty politics'
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2010, 11:36:24 AM »
KC, I absolutely do not think this particular reform would have been budget neutral or save $ down the road.  Those predictions were made on very very rosy assumptions that were impossible to predict.  The CBO even released a 2nd statement saying their initial estimate was based on some savings #s which were provided to them and later they found to be double counted.  This plan was NOT budget neutral.

They need to pass a simplified version of healthcare reform.  Pick 5-10 items for change that does not cost so much.  
Here's a start:

1. Tear apart medicare, medicaid & eliminate the real wastes now
2. Address total malpractice reform (including tort reform), goal to decrease total costs, total # of lawsuits, settlements, outrageous judgements, legal expenses, # of people named in suits, judicial pre-screenings, decrease the need for defensive medicine practices.
3. Pass a law prohibiting pre-existing condition exclusions
4. Allow small business pools to decrease cost of insurance
5. Pass portability of healthcare laws (people to carry their insurance even if they lose their job)
6. Standardize reimbursements for the same medical service by all providers
7. Remove anti-trust protections for insurance companies and allow competition across state lines
8. Consider a mandate that everyone must carry a high deductible insurance plan
9. Create high risk pools
10. Re-evaluate the reforms at 12 and 24 months.

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Re: Obama: Parties must 'transcend petty politics'
« Reply #27 on: February 10, 2010, 11:38:12 AM »
Healthcare was not designated a priority during the Bush administration, I can't defend what they didn't do or why they didn't make it a priority...I imagine we were focused so much on Iraq.  Anyway, all we can do is debate on what is the best plan now.
In fairness, the republicans lost control in 2007.

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Re: Obama: Parties must 'transcend petty politics'
« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2010, 11:39:42 AM »
Healthcare was not designated a priority during the Bush administration, I can't defend what they didn't do or why they didn't make it a priority...I imagine we were focused so much on Iraq.  Anyway, all we can do is debate on what is the best plan now.

The best plan is for the Federal government to stop right now, and get rid off all the BS they have already screwed up and let the states decide for themselves
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Re: Obama: Parties must 'transcend petty politics'
« Reply #29 on: February 10, 2010, 11:40:39 AM »
KC, I posted some of my own ideas.  Here is the republican platform for all to see and evaluate.  Again, this was posted in 2009:

 http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare

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Re: Obama: Parties must 'transcend petty politics'
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2010, 11:45:02 AM »
Oh the perv tries to defend his actions you sound like a rapist hiding in the bushes   ::) The repubs have ideas alright, ideas to keep things at status quo.  
LOL im not defending shit brainchild I admit it, I see a good looking women and I want to see her naked  :o its shocking I know  ;D

Is that why your messiah said that the reps had good ideas? and is that why those ideas were incorperated into the debacle you and your messiah are trying to sell?