NOW i remember why i hardly ever come on getbig.... every moron on here thinks he is an expert.
First you start by pontification about how much you know about bodybuilding and then you say some of the stupidest shit ive ever heard. So what if those guys are on a truckload of gear... the idea that "with gear, it really doesn't matter how you do your rows, you gain mass anyhow" is moronic. Think about it... if these guys WERE NOT using PREDOMIANTLY thier lats when they do bent over rows with "bad form" then how are their lats so big.
I know what you are TRYING to say but you are DEAD WRONG. The idea is that they are not using much lats cause their form is so bad but it doesnt matter because the little amount of stimulation they actually DO get to their lats is enough due to all the gear they are on. If that logic was true these guys would not even need to do tricep work because they would still get big tris from doing just benches... they wouldnt need to do shoulder press of any kind cause their front delts would grow enough just from benching... they wouldnt need to train biceps cause their bis would get enough work from bent over rows with "bad form" ect ect. Steroids or not you still have to directly stimulate the target muscle in order to make it grow to the degree that these guys have developed. if you look at the way guys like Ronnie, Branch, Jonnie Jaskson train their form would probably be decried by your average planet fitness trainer or getbig expert/moron as being "all wrong" but who has the better development.... oh i forgot its only cause of steroids... you take steroids and you dont even need USE the target muscle group...it just grows like majic 
I always get internet “experts” telling me im doing it all wrong like in my video posted in this thread. On my youtube channel page i have an open invitation which reads:
“To all those internet "experts" who offer me unsolicited advice, i will no longer be wasting my time responding to comments. If you want to offer me advice add me to facebook & that way we can see exactly who you are & the results of your training wisdom. I am not hiding who i am so unless you do the same i will know you have nothing & you are not worth listening to. It is no co-incidence that the people on here who criticize me have no videos of their own... most likely its cause you are to ashamed to show yourself.”
So far i have had no takers because much like getbig its much easier to criticize others without revealing who you are and not having to back up your “training wisdom” with your results.
Well, what we got here is an opinion from another "internet expert" whose knowledge is based on what he has hear and read from internet. What he has shown to us is quite nice little back and great bacne, pointing out that he is on gear. And this guy has the ultimate opinion about the barbell rows and how to do it correctly? Well, no. He is only defending the style which Yates used, completely forgetting that before Yates there were guys like Arnie, Oliva, Franco Colombo, Lee Haney etc. who have excellent back with old school rows. In modern bodybuilding, who has the back wide enough to match what Arnie show us 30 years ago? No one. There is many mass monsters who has great thickness, but not the lines and style. Secondly, I have seen how these guys do it in their training routine, and it is different than how they do it in videos. You have to understand difference between show off and training.
And how about the gear? These guys use GH like 100 000 x medical doses, so there isn't any force in the universe which could stop the growing even if they didn't train at all. Fact is that without stimulation, with those doses every muscle in your body will grow no matter what you do. Training is only part of the show and with guys like Kamali it will only harm his development, because he is training like an idiot. How you do your exercises dictates the form which your muscles get when they grow. If we use Kamali for example, he has no biceps because he has burn them out while doing width of his upper back. Yates has torn biceps from those rows, but how about Haney? Great long and full bicep, lot of size and quality, wide and thick back and a bunch of Mr Olympia medals to prove that he has what it needs. It isn't how much you lift, but how you lift it. How about bench press? Who has peck's to show us like Arnold had in his prime? Same width and thickness? There isn't such thing in modern bodybuilding, because no one do wide grip bench, dips, flat bench flyes etc. old school exercises like he used to do = there isn't similar stimulation = there isn't similar pecks. So simple.
You can clearly see the difference with old school builders and modern builders, for example Wolf vs Arnold. This comes from mainly two reasons, the modern gear and the modern way of training. Somewhere in the ninety century bodybuilders pick up the habit to use heavy loads and partial reps in every fucking exercise. This can be perfect if you are on gear but if you are not, you need the different stimulation to grow your muscles. And with partial reps, avoiding full range of motion, you never get those lines which make old school builders look so aesthetic. You end up looking like Kamali or Wolf which of course isn't too bad if you look now like Goodrum. Anyhow, if I could choose, I would like to look like Coleman in his prime or like Haney. There is two way of training, training on gear and natural training, and you need different techniques to get your goal. It really is so simple. Furthermore, If you are on gear, you benefit if you are training like natural builder, but if you are natural, you can't benefit if you are training like those who are on gear. People has to understand that each body has it's limitations and using gear you can push them further. Without gear, using too heavy loads and doing too many sets you will exhaust your system quite quick, and it will end your growing. That's why you should think what and how you do, and that's why right and full range of motion give you the most.
And what comes to my opinion and it is true or not, who gives a fuck? If you don't agree, so what? Fuck you. Let your path to greatness to be simple as your mind. I don't peg people to listen if I have some advise, if they are not interested about it, so be it. I don't care. It is your back, your career and your shame when you find out that you have been wrong, or your glory if you are right. It doesn't take anything away from me, it doesn't cost me even one sent.
