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How long in the gym?
« on: February 27, 2011, 09:56:45 AM »
How long do you guys stay in the gym per body part? For instance, for me for arms< bis and tris together, it takes me about an hour and fifteen minutes, chest about forty five minutes and i cant move, legs about an hour, back in about an hour, and shoulders in about an hour due to rest periods. I only train one part a day and try to go 5 to six times a week depending on how i feel.
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Re: How long in the gym?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2011, 11:54:32 AM »
Im doing some sort of modified West Side PL routine right now. so on my max days im there for 90 minutes or so. dynamic days = 60 minutes

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Re: How long in the gym?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2011, 04:54:08 PM »
i train solo......so it only takes me about 45 mins- an hour.

arms 45 mins

chest, back etc.... one hour


any more than hour is too much time in the gym.....imho

i rest about 2 mins in between sets.

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Re: How long in the gym?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2011, 06:57:03 PM »
those times seem over the top.  I can work bi's for about 10 minutes and I'm spent. 

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Re: How long in the gym?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2011, 07:57:48 PM »
How long in a gym? Depends how many minutes are actually involved in moving weight. Everyone needs a pace in a workout and that pace should be rather quick if a BB'er. PL'ers & OL'ers are a whole different story with a whole different protocol.

If triceps & biceps takes a hour and a half then something is wrong, developing into crazy. If you can't get triceps & biceps focused and worked extremely well, to encourage muscle growth, within 8 to 12 minutes than just go home. Your taking up space and wasting your important time.

With a larger muscle area, aim for 12 to 18 minutes total while working back, chest, quads, etc.. If doing 5X5's, which boarders on power BB'ing workouts, than a little longer.  Training with systems like Quad sets (excellent for arms or delts) Tri sets, extended sets, 8X8's, GVT,straight SS's, etc than minimum rest between sets & exercises. Gauge between 60 to 90 seconds max. And try working with someone who actually cares about making the most of their workout periods. Every workout should be approached with Serious Intent. You don't always need full ROM or perfect form to make the most of any workout. You do need purpose backed up by a fast pace when attacking any muscle group. Good Luck.
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Re: How long in the gym?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2011, 08:22:38 PM »
Well if i go heavy then i have to wait about two minutes between sets, and dont get me wrong, it only takes about 40 minutes when i superset like i have been lately on arms. Before i superset i would put bi's and tri's seperate 4 exercises 3 sets a piece for bi's and tri's with two minutes inbetween. Do the math! Would you consider that overtraining? Thats 12 for bi's and 12 for tri's set wise. Im just saying i tire out quick and need the two minutes, or would i be better off with drop sets going at a faster pace?
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Re: How long in the gym?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 08:25:34 PM »
Wednesday, 27 May 2009 
Written by Robbie Durand 

Hormones such as human growth hormone (GH) and testosterone have been shown to play a role in muscle hypertrophy and strength gains. One of the core training principles for muscle hypertrophy in bodybuilding is short rest— less than 1 minute between sets. In 1988, anabolic hormone guru William Kraemer, PhD, performed a study that literally changed the world of bodybuilding overnight.   In this landmark study, Kraemer reported that heavy resistance training protocols with shortened rest periods (less than 1 minute) between sets elicited greater GH and testosterone response than resistance training protocols with longer rest periods (more than 3 minutes).

A previous study published in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research examined the effects of three different loading routines on testosterone and cortisol levels.2 Subjects were randomly assigned to a power workout (8 sets of 6 reps, 45 percent of 1-repetition maximum, 3 minutes rest), a hypertrophy workout (10 sets of 10 reps, 75 percent of 1-repetition maximum, 2 minutes rest) and a maximal strength workout (6 sets of 4 reps, 88 percent of 1-repetition maximum, 4 minutes rest). The hypertrophy scheme (10 sets of 10 reps) increased testosterone and cortisol, whereas the power and maximal strength schemes produced little to no endocrine change.

In general, the post-exercise testosterone and cortisol response to the hypertrophy scheme was greater than the other two schemes, which themselves displayed largely similar profiles.  There is no doubt that short rest periods are going to lead to enhanced fat oxidation and a greater metabolic effect, but should you train with short rest periods year-round? 

Longer Rest Periods Superior For Strength
A previous study in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research found that short rest periods led to a decrease in the number of repetitions performed in the workout. In the study, resistance-trained men performed an upper-body workout consisting of two experimental training sessions. Both sessions consisted of 3 sets of 8 repetitions with an 8-repetition maximum resistance on six upper body exercises: wide-grip lat pulldowns, close-grip pulldowns, seated machine rows, barbell rows lying on a bench, seated dumbbell arm curls and seated machine arm curls.  The two experimental sessions differed only in the length of the rest period between sets and exercises: one session was performed with a 1-minute rest and the other with a 3-minute rest period. It should be of no surprise that the group that rested 3 minutes between sets was able to perform a greater number of repetitions compared to the 1-minute rest session.1 Think about a few extra repetitions performed during each workout over a six-month period and how much added strength and size that would add up to. New research has shown that the body has an incredible ability to adapt to exercise.
 

Short Rest Periods Increase Anabolic Hormones During The First Week, But Effects Decline With Training
 In a recent study in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, researchers from the University of Nebraska recruited subjects and randomly assigned them to a 10-week resistance training program with either 1 or 2.5 minutes of rest between sets, training four times per week. Subjects were advised to consume 1.7 grams of protein per kilogram of body mass each day to ensure adequate nutritional resources for training-stimulated adaptation. Researchers found that in the first week, the ‘1-minute between rest’ group exhibited a greater overall hormone response to weight training than the ‘2.5-minutes’ group.
In week one, post-exercise testosterone and cortisol levels were significantly greater in the 1-minute group than in the 2.5-minutes group. However, these differences diminished by weeks five and 10, in which post-exercise hormone levels in the two groups were similar. What this study shows is that the body adapts to its training routine; the physiological stress of resistance exercise is diminished with time. The bottom line is that you have to constantly shock your body with new training routines!

Longer Rest Period Increased Muscle Hypertrophy More Than Shorter Rest Period
 Another interesting finding was that the longer rest period group (2.5 minutes) tended to have greater increases in muscle arm mass than the short rest period group (1 minute). Additionally, the longer rest period group tended to have larger increases in thigh mass.

The author concludes that periodic changes in training protocols are needed for increased anabolic hormones and that there is an adaptation response that occurs to training. The groups became more alike as the weeks went along, as both groups adapted to their training regimen.

The key point of the study is that the hormonal responses (GH and testosterone) were greater during the first week and had diminished by the 10th week of training. The study emphasized that changing your workout reduces the training adaptation that takes place and keeps you growing.

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