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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2011, 09:30:01 AM »

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2011, 09:42:47 AM »


THE UNCROWNED CHAMP !!!

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2011, 09:43:36 AM »
whats flex lewis' height? cant be more than 2 in shorter than branch..?

He is just under 5`6" tall.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2011, 09:47:31 AM »

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2011, 11:26:33 AM »
LEE PRIEST:

Yep all bullshit...Funny if Dexter come in off he gets placed low...Branch comes in off his Arnold conditon and wins...Rockell should have won...Now JOJ looked good but they say he couldnt win due to his legs letting him down..well then fuck me how does he beat Rockell who has it all balance,shape,mass and condition..it's all bullshit ....MD was major sponsor Branch and Roelly are with MD and JOJ is with Musclewreck....Roelly with BSN ..see so green wins this show....The IFBB is to pig headed to follow it's own rules and their stubbourness will be the death of this sport.....to many power hungry people trying to have it their way..........so as far as i see it we are 4 for 4 for shitty fucked shows this year......It's going great huh

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2011, 11:33:06 AM »

I agree with Liar Priest...it's becoming too obvious that corruption is running rampant in the IFBB, damn, maybe somebody needs to whistleblow on them, instead of blowing judges...would be glad to see a Congrssional...naw, what the hell, they wouldn't care about some drugged up dudes...

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2011, 11:33:21 AM »
Aquiles winning the 3rd Mr Getbig deserves a mention in this thread

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2011, 11:34:58 AM »
Someone please get that poor dude on the right a wheelchair


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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2011, 01:13:03 PM »
all the lads are still talking about this, it realy does stink.... i know the brit lads who competed, i was told that rockel had said back stage that he knew he was going to place low before the show even started..

eddy elwood told a similar story a few yrs ago, about how the top spots were all sewn up in order of sponsors at the grandprix he made his pro dubute at

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2011, 02:23:14 PM »


THE UNCROWNED CHAMP !!!

fucking bullshit!!! rockel is the winner!
i cant see how they placed Branch ''30 lbs of T-rex assholes in a 20lbs bag'' Warren ahead of him
AND roelly the guy with seriously terrible genetics especially legs genetic for bbing.. all what is decent on him is his triceps and thats because he pump them up with oils everynight.. what the fuck..

what a joke pro bbing is

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2011, 07:47:55 PM »
Now I understand why the judges have to comply with the system and this is probably quite awful for those involved. I have judged contests in the past and there is absolutely no way I would change my decision because others asked me to do so. Once integrity goes the whole show becomes a circus and that is what we are seeing. They don't want or select independent judges with integrity. They need officials that will be sensible and do what is best for the sport!

Our Ron has been given privileges to take photos at contests so mixes with a lot of people including organizers, promoters, officials, judges, photographers, publishers and competitors. He told us Branch was the best. He would have picked this up from what he saw and heard around the scene at the contest and backstage.

You have to feel sorry for the winners and the losers who should have won because everyone involved loses when the wrong person wins. Supplement companies wield a lot of power and for products that are probably not necessary for bodybuilders. What a sad situation that all this misinformation is perpetuated by the magazines who rely on advertising to exist.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2011, 01:52:34 AM »
Back.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2011, 02:07:22 AM »
Back.

It's obvious that Branchhas way more back detail than Ronnie  ::) ::) ::)
What a joke.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2011, 10:20:07 AM »
I'm not one of those bodybuilding fans who believe that the judges' conspire to pick the winners.

And that is for two reasons.

Reason #1: The winners of the Pro events that I've personally attended and witnessed from an area close to the judging panel have appeared to be fair and impartial. I may not always agree with the eventual decision but I've never witnessed an event in which the decision appeared to be outright fraud.

EXCEPT TWICE ... and one event was not NPC nor IFBB sanctioned and the second was disregarded by an honest NPC Head Judge while computing the scores. It was a promoter who tried to persuade him otherwise.

Reason #2: It seems to me to be the fans who are avid in voicing their claim that the contest was 'fixed' or judged dishonestly'judge'.  And those same fans are basing their opinion only after seeing the contestants on stage photos.

Photos show a contestant in a brief moment of time but the judges see the same contestants over several minutes of time .... and that 'time' difference alone makes a big difference in judging bodybuilding contestants.

Just because we who see the photos don't agree with the judges' decision, does not mean that the judges are 'dishonest'.

But I will admit that Ronny's photos look a lot better than Branch's.

So Ronny's 'photos' win in my humble opinion.

THANKS FOR THE BACK SHOTS, LURKY.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2011, 10:41:23 AM »
I don't see how Branch beat Rockel on back, neithers is great but warrens looks like turd

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2011, 11:19:41 AM »
Hench, I agree with you based on seeing the above couple of shots .... but the photographer might have caught Branch before he got into the full pose.

Possibly!

I'm just attempting to say that it is almost impossible to to offer a valid judgement based on photos alone.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2011, 11:26:48 AM »
Good objective post here!
One thing bodybuilding fans can fail to realize or accept is that BB is jugded by the current accepted standards.
A bigger, thicker, guy who has a more freaky muscular look like Branch is going to win.


I'm not one of those bodybuilding fans who believe that the judges' conspire to pick the winners.

And that is for two reasons.

Reason #1: The winners of the Pro events that I've personally attended and witnessed from an area close to the judging panel have appeared to be fair and impartial. I may not always agree with the eventual decision but I've never witnessed an event in which the decision appeared to be outright fraud.

EXCEPT TWICE ... and one event was not NPC nor IFBB sanctioned and the second was disregarded by an honest NPC Head Judge while computing the scores. It was a promoter who tried to persuade him otherwise.

Reason #2: It seems to me to be the fans who are avid in voicing their claim that the contest was 'fixed' or judged dishonestly'judge'.  And those same fans are basing their opinion only after seeing the contestants on stage photos.

Photos show a contestant in a brief moment of time but the judges see the same contestants over several minutes of time .... and that 'time' difference alone makes a big difference in judging bodybuilding contestants.

Just because we who see the photos don't agree with the judges' decision, does not mean that the judges are 'dishonest'.

But I will admit that Ronny's photos look a lot better than Branch's.

So Ronny's 'photos' win in my humble opinion.

THANKS FOR THE BACK SHOTS, LURKY.

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2011, 01:25:11 PM »
One more.


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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2011, 01:31:39 PM »
its not as tho branch is mr back, if he totaly dominated from the back it would be one thing, but he clearly doesnt, if anything his back looks poor compared to his huge legs, thick waiste and glutes

as i keep saying, every single person who attended had rockel winning or 2nd at the least

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2011, 04:30:11 PM »
Local Hero, good to see this comment from someone who was actually there  .....  and after seeing these photos I can agree but since I was not there, I can not 'entirely agree' and can only simply say once again that Branch's photos are not as impressive as Ronny's.

Now my problem is that I have to say that Ronny's photos do look better ..... in every single case, in every single instance!

So I gotta guess that my "don't judge this contest by the photos" idea is shot down completely.

Shit! Back to the drawing board.

Thanks, Local, for making me look like the dumb GetBig Blue Nosed Gopher. (An affectionate (?) term my 4 year old niece calls me quite often.)

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2011, 04:47:43 PM »
Howard, thanks for the decent comment but can you detail me the Current Accepted Standards that the judges need to abide by?

I've judged many contests (but only one IFBB contest) and in my opinion it was simply a matter of picking the best one on stage and the worst one on stage and filling in the blank spaces.

In the IFBB event, it wasn't as simple as that so I simply "took my basketball and left the court".

Kind of along the same lines but I think that there should be a Pro Division for impressive bodybuilders who would be more appealing to the general public (Meaning not as big as Branch and most of the other deserving Olympia contenders).... and possible more appealing to the people within the supplement industry who look for models and spokespersons to rep their products.

As an example there should be a Pro Division for the likes of Peter Molner and Hoffmann and Dan Decker, and etc. who cannot or have no intertest in getting refrigerator sized.

I was in the process of starting a topic on this very subject and will continue to do so if there is any interest.




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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2011, 05:15:39 PM »
didn't write here a long time

wow rockel should have won for sure and overall, i think flex looks the best

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2011, 08:15:35 PM »
and this is why I don't give a fuck about pro BBing and haven't been to a show in 11 years. they reward mass above everything else.  I think BBers should be huge...just like the next guy. but the thing that set them apart from the fat fuck down the street was the tight midsection and ripped abs combined with the crazy mass.  who cares if a guy weighs 265 If he has a 42 inch waist and zero shoulder-to-waist differential. ....see Jay Cutler.

fucking Branch Warren should not make the final fallout of a pro show.....he's a blob of shit and my new pro that I Like to despise

Lol, good post...I must agree. It's not size, but size at all costs... :(

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Re: The biggest robbery in BB history!
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2011, 09:32:27 AM »
Ronnie is mentally challenged.