Author Topic: Ahmad Haidar: 5 years difference (Read 29504 times)

BrooklynBB · « **Reply #25 on:** January 07, 2006, 09:04:23 PM »

Quote from: buffbodz on January 05, 2006, 09:21:00 AM

How much longer can he be overlooked now?

Thing is, he looks really great standing by himself. But put him next to the top 5 and he's still got a bit more mass and symmetry to go. He's good - and I'm a fan of his - but he's not top 5 material just yet. It's easy to judge in pictures, but when you watch video or even better in person you can see the real differences between these guys.

As for Victor Martinez - someone posted that one arm is bigger than the other and that he looks rediculous. It's so slight it's not even noticeable, unless you want to point out subtle flaws like that. For that matter, Jay Cutler's entire right side at the olympia was larger than his left - upper AND lower body - but everyone seemed to miss that.

Speaking of Jay - which I'm surprised noone posted - here's a comparison for you:

Jay, looking great... before: (circa 1998)

Waaaay after. And Waaay older looking.

BeefMan · « **Reply #26 on:** January 08, 2006, 06:55:22 AM »

Quote from: BrooklynBB on January 07, 2006, 09:04:23 PM

Thing is, he looks really great standing by himself. But put him next to the top 5 and he's still got a bit more mass and symmetry to go. He's good - and I'm a fan of his - but he's not top 5 material just yet. It's easy to judge in pictures, but when you watch video or even better in person you can see the real differences between these guys.

As for Victor Martinez - someone posted that one arm is bigger than the other and that he looks rediculous. It's so slight it's not even noticeable, unless you want to point out subtle flaws like that. For that matter, Jay Cutler's entire right side at the olympia was larger than his left - upper AND lower body - but everyone seemed to miss that.

Speaking of Jay - which I'm surprised noone posted - here's a comparison for you:

Jay, looking great... before: (circa 1998)

Waaaay after. And Waaay older looking.

thats not really a fair comparison..the second pic is off season

Gord · « **Reply #27 on:** January 08, 2006, 07:52:54 AM »

Also, I don't think the first Cutler pic is from 1998. I think it was taken in the last two/three years.

candidate2025 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 08, 2006, 09:42:41 AM »

Jay, looking great... before: (circa 1998)

Waaaay after. And Waaay older looking.

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looks better to me in the second one

Redwine · « **Reply #29 on:** January 11, 2006, 08:40:13 AM »

lolz thts during offseason i suppose

gammahydroxy · « **Reply #30 on:** January 17, 2006, 06:06:44 PM »

that's not a 1998 pic of jay...that's for sure..

tjschoenborn · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2006, 12:55:25 PM »

First pic is me at the 2003 Jr nationals 174#'s
Second Pic is of me winning the 2005 North Americans Heavyweight at 216#'s

Jr. Yates · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2006, 02:41:53 PM »

wow thats nuts!

candidate2025 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 22, 2006, 03:02:51 PM »

Quote from: tjschoenborn on January 20, 2006, 12:55:25 PM

First pic is me at the 2003 Jr nationals 174#'s
Second Pic is of me winning the 2005 North Americans Heavyweight at 216#'s

wow you look really familiar.....i thjink maybe you were in md one time.

Prime · « **Reply #34 on:** January 22, 2006, 03:45:49 PM »

Quote from: tjschoenborn on January 20, 2006, 12:55:25 PM

First pic is me at the 2003 Jr nationals 174#'s
Second Pic is of me winning the 2005 North Americans Heavyweight at 216#'s

Wow you looked really impressive even as a middleweight. Thats an incredible impreovement and increace in size, and you appear to have maintained a decent balanced physique as well.
How tall are you?

TheBigAristotle · « **Reply #35 on:** February 08, 2006, 07:42:16 PM »

Wow Branch Warren looks like a baby in that first picture. Hard to believe it's only been 5 years. As for Art he looked awesome when he first turned pro but man his physique has just become ugly. He is massive no doubt, but certainly isn't something I would aspire too.

Harry R. M. Pitts · « **Reply #36 on:** February 10, 2006, 08:19:55 AM »

Quote from: tjschoenborn on January 20, 2006, 12:55:25 PM

First pic is me at the 2003 Jr nationals 174#'s
Second Pic is of me winning the 2005 North Americans Heavyweight at 216#'s

WOW u gained 42 lbs. in 2 yrs!!!

LAMA-PAI · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2006, 06:43:21 AM »

victor has no oil !

MrUniverse · « **Reply #38 on:** February 16, 2006, 05:59:29 AM »

Dennis James

MrUniverse · « **Reply #39 on:** February 16, 2006, 06:04:28 AM »

Lou Ferrigno

MrUniverse · « **Reply #40 on:** February 16, 2006, 06:08:29 AM »

Dorian Yates

shutupandtrain88 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 18, 2006, 06:17:01 AM »

Vic definitley has some valentino look to those arms, not nearly as ridiculous but that same shape is there alittle, doesnt look good,

They all do look way older than 5 yrs between the shots, that was the 1st thing i noticed. The GH, keeping you young, doesnt apply to those shots thats for sure.

Most of them looked better at the 2000 pic.

Will these guys make it to 50? 45? How many years does that much gear take off from you?

GoneAway · « **Reply #42 on:** February 19, 2006, 06:28:49 AM »

Quote from: buffbodz on January 05, 2006, 09:21:00 AM

How much longer can he be overlooked now?

Damn straight.

Great leg improvement for Branch.

DK II · « **Reply #43 on:** May 27, 2011, 03:59:08 AM »

240_Iz_Nutz · « **Reply #44 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:24:23 PM »

Quote from: rufjunk on December 22, 2005, 11:36:30 AM

I'm gonna get flamed for this but many of these guys didn't improve in the right direction.

Going for general mass won't improve their standings in bodybuilding contests. It would be amazing if they actually spent 5 years trying to get certain muscles to grow, ie Bicep peaks and calves, instead of trying to be the next Ronnie Coleman or Markus Ruhl.

Theres actually such a thing as too much size, it causes a distended a guy, bad proportions, etc. Don't look for other bodybuilders to guide you, they're the Chris Cooks of the world that think size is the reason they don't win contests. A 12 year old browsing an old muscle mag could tell these guys why they look terrible, it's not your freaking size, its your freaking gut and terrible aesthetics.

No offense, but they're literally "misinformed", its almost humerous, these guys spend 5 years working hard trying to gain mass, then they do it and they still rank out of the top 10 in most contests. I got news for ya, it's not FROM YOUR FREAKING SIZE. PROPORTIONS, AESTHETICs, YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT. GEEZ SOMEONE HAD TO FUCKING SAY IT.

Here is your flaming you little bitch, this is Getbig, right? I love the guy to death, but think about it...Dennis James baby. Looked so good at one point, and I will defend him till death, but DJ baby....

240_Iz_Nutz · « **Reply #45 on:** June 01, 2011, 02:26:49 PM »

Quote from: MrUniverse on February 16, 2006, 05:59:29 AM

Dennis James

Haha, my boy... where you at Dennis....just playing bro, you are my boy.

Johnny_Blaze · « **Reply #46 on:** June 27, 2011, 05:45:54 PM »

They always "look better" before they turn pro at the NPC, look at Branch Warren and chris cook. Bodybuilding is about the look, and they looked better before Pro days.