Do Genetics Matter?

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thought only serious posts on this section of board?

Why do all the gh15 guys sound exactly the same (and exactly like gh15)?

[Borracho]

Genetics is a vague term that can be applied to various scenarios accurately.  There is structural genetics which is about how your muscles look, insert, attach, etc...   It can also be used when discussing the fascia thickness/tightness.  Muscles with a more flexible fascia will grow more easily.

There is the genetics of chemical response as well.  Some people respond to chemical enhancement much better than others.  Look at Levrone that simply blew up to Mr O competition shape in three months after ditching the gym for his music the other nine months.

There is also stimulus response as well that is a genetic trait.  This is in regards to how easily the body responds to training and such.  Some people can train like a mofo and eat good and simply never make progress.  Others can half ass train and use no drugs and still look amazing.  

There are other aspects that fall under the genetics umbrella as well.  Your metabolism is one.   Not only how much food you can eat but how much you can utilize.  A lot of people do not realize you have to train your body from a nutritional stand point just like you train it in the gym.  You take a look at how much food the top amateurs and pros eat and if you take the average person, stick them on a diet like that, they would get very fat very fast, even from all clean food.  You didn't bench 315 the first time you walked in a gym did you (at least without help and a strain on the body), well you are not going to go from eating 1500 calories a day to eating 5000 a day over night and not suffer for it in some kind of way.  You got to train your body to be accustomed to that.

Recovery is also a genetic trait that is predetermined.  Your CNS recovers at a different rate from other peoples.  You have to work with that recovery rate, not against it.  

So in a nutshell, yes genetics matter.  But when you get right down to it, genetics are really a fucking crap shoot as to what your parents and Mother Nature are going to give you to work with.

Great post.

You can take many drugs like aas,thyroid, slin, etc to overcome genetic faults but make yourself sick in the end. That could also go under drug response but the fact is genetics is everything in your dna.

Some people have it, some don't but there will always be drug dealers trying to push drugs...

[local hero]

your trying to help these people gal... but its no use, there mental illness is strong.. they need to waste 10 or more years to find this truth

[dj181]

they talk too much, train too little.

on top of that, poor training and diet,and then they wonder wtf is up.

yes poor training, ill do tutorial vids soon to explain whats it about.

but even if they know ,they do it wrong, bc they overestimate their form and skill.

and then still some will think the answer is even more drugs.

some of them are worse than the delusion al naturals,in a sense.

the root problem with the majority is bulking and confusing fat and water with true size.

instead of never even bothering to check the scale, they go by scale, as if that means anything.

say im 210lbs today, i can be 220 by tomoro,same time, and what would it mean?fuck all

3 years, 1 natty,learning the moves, 1on 250mg test gaining necesary base strenght, 1year on 500 test and then learn to diet with eventualy coming shredded, thats when you know whre about you stand.

no blalonie, no gh, no trenbologna need, just 3 years of shut up and train.all those mentioned substances wont make difference big enough to be seen dramaticaly in the mirror.
stick to basics.
when newcomers talk about which drug to use i could eternaly facepalm myself.

i've gained nearly 4 kg since being on dbol for a little over 3 weeks, and i think that the majority of this gain is quality gain as my ab skinfold has remained the same and i still got veins on my ab wall and my strength has went up very nicely, but i suppose that it would be best to post up a comparison pic here and then you dudes could tell me so 

[nasht5]

yes, genetics matter more than what you take to overcome the genetics.

[dj181]

yeah man youre heading to the right direction, just down that protein,all will be good.
 

thats good idea,observe that ab fold,dont let the lines fade away

i eat lots of peanuts, ice cream, and protien powder mixed in whole milk, and i also eat lots of quarter pounders with cheese and big macs, so it's all good

[VintageYork]

Wrong,politics got the best of him.

[VintageYork]

i have seen some black kids who lift nothing but marijuana joints to their mouths who could step on physique stage with not 1 day training or diet and win the thing.
I grew up in Harlem,you claim that you see black guys blowing weed that can walk on stage and win a show and never lift or exercise? Well I'll say this every time I went up to the park all the guys with the bad ass builds and big wide backs lived on the pull up bars,Aka getto workouts.
no joke

[VintageYork]

ah nono, i meant really 20 year olds, and didnt mean bbuilding shows, but fitness class or physique, they could straight up win.

agreed on the rest, those who do bar exercises and nothing else have crazy builds at times, extremly impressive

understood, some of the freakiest builds I've ever seen,some looked like a dam Cobra,unreal sweep,No wheels or calves,LOL.

[deadz]

YES