yeah thats why these types of Debates are a Moot point....Tyson was a Boxer...IMO @ one time one of the Best ever his hand speed, foot speed, Punching power and Defence was Exceptional for any Era it really was... all people like too remember is when he lost to Douglas, Holyfeild, Lewis etc these guys were ether too young too recall actually watching a PRIME TYSON in the 1980s or just "jumped" on the he was always "over rated" bandwagon once Mike started going down hill...the top UFC guys are Awesome Mixed martial arts guys.... really well rounded in Different Disciplines of course the smart money when be on them throwing a Prime Tyson in with them in a MMA cage.... the same will always be said throwing a Prime Cain, Santos, Overeem, etc in with Tyson in a Boxing ring between 1985-1989