War Machine faces 32 charges, life in prison

[Radical Plato]

so

I'm saying, the guy got a raw deal, it's not hard to work out where the dysfunction comes from. 

[OTHstrong]

I'm saying, the guy got a raw deal, it's not hard to work out where the dysfunction comes from. 

Ya I guess 

[Radical Plato]

so

I'm just pointing out he got a raw deal, not hard to see where the dysfunction comes from.

Women like Christy Mack are like Palestine, they deliberately provoke a reaction from someone stronger so they can wallow in their status as a victim.  It's classic victim role playing. I have no sympathy for anybody who deliberately acts in this way.  Any woman who says after a beating that he has done it plenty of times before, deserves to be beat.  If you CHOOSE to be with someone like that, then you know what to expect and if you are self destructive enough to accept it, then don't expect sympathy.  The irony is, the White Knights that fall over themselves to pick her up actually encourage her dysfunctional behaviour, her victim strategy works, suckers lap it up like a cat does milk.

 Studies have shown that the majority of so called battered women are VIOLENCE PRONE, meaning the same women get battered over and over again, and often because they initiate the violence.  This won't be the last time Christy mack gets battered, you can bet on that.  She will be provoking some other sucker any month now.

[OTHstrong]

I'm just pointing out he got a raw deal, not hard to see where the dysfunction comes from.

Women like Christy Mack are like Palestine, they deliberately provoke a reaction from someone stronger so they can wallow in their status as a victim.  It's classic victim role playing. I have no sympathy for anybody who deliberately acts in this way.  Any woman who says after a beating that he has done it plenty of times before, deserves to be beat.  If you CHOOSE to be with someone like that, then you know what to expect and if you are self destructive enough to accept it, then don;t expect sympathy.  Studies have shown that the majority of so called battered women are VIOLENCE PRONE, meaning the same women get battered over and over again, and often because they initiate the violence.  This won't be the last time Christy mack gets battered, you can bet on that.  She will be provoking some other sucker any month now.

I have no argument here as I agree she is dumb and she will get it again, does not mean whoever beats the fuck out of her should be rewarded

[Radical Plato]

Ya I guess  

I'm not excusing it, but dysfunction breeds dysfunction.  Or hurt people, hurt people so to speak.  After reading Warmachines blog and watching Joe Rogans podcast i don't think he is a malicious guy, for the most part he comes across as quite honest and even a little naive.  His troubles stem from his obviously unresolved anger at past issues, things he perceives as injustices.  Sometimes these things have a way of spiralling out of control, you get pissed at being disrespected, treated unfairly and you act out landing you in trouble and next thing you know you have a reputation as trouble and this exacerbates the likelihood of not getting fairly treated later on, and it becomes a vicious cycle.

I don't think warmachine is a bad dude, but many years in jail have the potential to turn him that way.

[OTHstrong]

I'm not excusing it, but dysfunction breeds dysfunction.  Or hurt people, hurt people so to speak.  After reading Warmachines blog and watching Joe Rogans podcast i don't think he is a malicious guy, for the most part he comes across as quite honest and even a little naive.  His troubles stem from his obviously unresolved anger at past issues, things he perceives as injustices.  Sometimes these things have a way of spiralling out of control, you get pissed at being disrespected, treated unfairly and you act out landing you in trouble and next thing you know you have a reputation as trouble and this exacerbates the likelihood of not getting fairly treated later on, and it becomes a vicious cycle.

I don't think warmachine is a bad dude, but many years in jail have the potential to turn him that way.

I actually enjoyed his conversation with Rogan and felt the same way you did with the exception of him thinking he has special needs, just my opinion. tough life he went through? yes no doubt.

[Radical Plato]

I have no argument here as I agree she is dumb and she will get it again, does not mean whoever beats the fuck out of her should be rewarded

I don't think he should be rewarded either, but LIFE in prison, seriously.  What frustrates me is the lack of consistency. I know of cases where women have murdered their husband and got zero jail time.   One jealous wife poured accelerant on her husband and lit him on fire burning him to death because he was cheating on her.  She claimed she just wanted to burn his penis to teach him a lesson and it got out of control.  Anyway, of course she played the victim, told everyone he was abusive (of course he wasn't around to defend the accusation) and she got let of with a suspended sentence of six years (no jail time).  The feminists made her a champion and portrayed her as a victim who finally stood up for herself and the judge even remarked a jail sentence would be unfair as she had already suffered enough.

[Radical Plato]

I actually enjoyed his conversation with Rogan and felt the same way you did with the exception of him thinking he has special needs, just my opinion. tough life he went through? yes no doubt.

What do you mean by special needs?  Are you referring to his admission he had an anxiety disorder?  I actually watched the entire podcast as well, so I am just trying to work out what part you are talking about.

[OTHstrong]

I don't think he should be rewarded either, but LIFE in prison, seriously.  What frustrates me is the lack of consistency. I know of cases where women have murdered their husband and got zero jail time.   One jealous wife poured accelerant on her husband and lit him on fire burning him to death because he was cheating on her.  She claimed she just wanted to burn his penis to teach him a lesson and it got out of control.  Anyway, of course she played the victim, told everyone he was abusive (of course he wasn't around to defend the accusation) and she got let of with a suspended sentence of three years (no jail time).  The feminists made her a champion and portrayed her as a victim who finally stood up for herself and the judge even remarked a jail sentence would be unfair as she had already suffered enough.

My opinion is lock him up and throw away the key but yes I can agree from a judicial stand point 5-7 years is reasonable, I mean he will do 1 third only right?

What do you mean by special needs?  Are you referring to his admission he had an anxiety disorder?  I actually watched the entire podcast as well, so I am just trying to work out what part you are talking about.

ya I felt he was justifying his bad acts based on his troubles, I could be wrong that is just my perception on the matter

[Var City]

good posts, ya I will try to find it somewhere,


ok I hear what you are saying and my opinion aside, realistically from a judicial stand 5-7 years plus rehab is appropriate I guess but I have no remorse for people like this

that's fair dude.

i do have some sympathy for some reason.

i don't for ISIS and true extremists who commit genocide,  kill children and kill women and rape children and force children into marriage and behad innocents and burn people alive and play soccer with peoples decaputated heads and BEGIN the war of ideology with weaponry.

War Machine isn't in that territory. He is fighting for nothing. He is fighting to fight. Something is wrong with him cognitively and I believe the root of this was what happened to him in his early teenage years (with his parents) and this probably led to substance abuse patterns, which in turn mitigated his frontal cortex growth(decision making abilties) and he has most likely had MANY concussions, so with that in mind:

I believe that he should be given a chance, and I agree with you that judicially 5-7 years is realistic.

If it turns out he can not pull himself together this time, and I mean fully, I would then not be able to sympathize with him.

LEt's put it this way: I wouldn't trust my most annoying neighbor's kids with him today, ever, or after he is rehabilitated including parole (successful parole).

I wouldn't let him within the block of my own. Ever.

However, given that he is undoubtedly heading through a rehabilitation process, we may as well attempt to do it right and hopefully they address the root of his issues, which can only be addressed one he has detoxed off whatever drugs he's on (i believe he is currently hooked on opiates 100% as well as some kind of upper and obviously he is using gear, which i hope they allow him to safely wean off of... because while PCT sucks- i blast half the year and cruise half the year- going cold turkey off gear after years of use- as sneaky as he may have been with testing- is really awful. I had to do it one time for 2 months while unexpected having a business trip (really) extended from 1 week to two months in London. It wasn't fun. I had no sex drive and felt like utter shit by my return flight.

Why do I care? Because he killed nobody yet and he is fighting just to fight. I think he can be helped. That's how I am. I am not a fighter. I can fight, and I have and maybe that is why I sympathize

I would never let him near my neighbor's dog however. He hit a woman. I don't care what she does for work. He hit a woman. That is not OK unless you are acting in self defense (true self defense). I am not convinced there is a chance that he was.

Anyway, to wrap this up, I'm presenting different views here, and I apologize to whoever picks their sides and sticks to them. But I view War Machine as a man who committed a heinous crime which I despise, and a human who was hurt once, and hit in the head too many times, and got addicted to drugs, and made a horrible mistake.

I pray for him that he can recover. And for those that he effected.

[Radical Plato]

My opinion is lock him up and throw away the key but yes I can agree from a judicial stand point 5-7 years is reasonable, I mean he will do 1 third only right?
ya I felt he was justifying his bad acts based on his troubles, I could be wrong that is just my perception on the matter

I don't know that it was so much justifying it, but showing an awareness of why he was dysfunctional.  Sometimes when young people go of the rails, if they don't have a stabilizing influence, a trusted relationship they can confide their thoughts and feelings in they may establish dysfunctional coping mechanisms.  Now this goes to one of the hypocrisies I am talking about.  See, people like you don't like it when perpetrators claim their bad behaviour was the cause of previous poor treatment, like abuse or trauma in childhood, and yet in the case of women murdering their male partners, a common defense often used is battered women syndrome.  A recognition that they were so badly treated they had no other option but to resort to extreme violence. So a man can't say, look, I have been treated like shit for years now, I finally had enough and snapped and caused someone else harm, yet apply this to a woman and it's perfectly acceptable, the majority of people will support her.

The best case scenario for warmachine would have been to walk away and he wouldn't be where he is now, but his past hasn't helped establish someone capable of acting rationally under what would have been for him an intense emotional response.  I dare say he had extremely strong feelings for Mack, judging by the tattoo on his neck and his admission he was actually going there to ask for her hand in marriage, and to then be confronted with her infidelity, coupled with his low emotional intelligence it was all too much.

I can't help but feel it is men like warmachine that needs societies compassion so they can then give him the help he needs to develop emotionally and get over his obvious unresolved anger issues and some scorn needs to be put on Christy Mack, and although I can tell she has suffered physically (nothing compared to the accumulated damage absorbed over Warmachines life), she must have known of Warmachines feelings and it does appear she has without any conscience led him up the garden path (as such women do).  A woman like Mack has been playing men like a fiddle since she first developed breasts, she is far more aware of how she is manipulating men then she will ever let on.  Such a woman is well skilled in the art of bringing men to their knees (no pun intended).