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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 02:28:25 PM »




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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2011, 02:55:08 PM »
Besides tendon placement and other structural differences, is a gorilla so powerful (versus a man) due to the much larger amount of testosterone he has?

  How did I miss this thread? Gorillas are vastly stronger than Humans for several reasons:

  - Their muscles are much larger in absolute terms.

  - They have a much higher proportion of fast-twitch, type II muscle fibers, especially on their back muscles and arms.

  - Their muscles process lactic acid much faster and more efficiently than Humans.

  - Their muscles attach in the tendons in positions that maximize leverage, especially for pulling, whilts Human muscles attach to the bones in positions that maximize fine motor coordination. As a consequence, Humans can touch the center of their palms with their thumbs, which gorillas can't. Humans can write with a pen, whilst gorillas, even if they had the intelligence to learn how to write, would never be able to due to lack of ability to control the fingers with the precision that Humans can.

  - Their tendons are four times thicker and several times denser than Humans, which allows them to hoist much bigger weights than Humans. An elite Human bencher can bench 750 lbs raw; a gorilla can hoist that weight with a single arm whilst using the other to hold itself to a tree branch, and then lift the weight to it's face. A strength that is several leagues above Human level.

  - Gorillas lack the strong neurological inhibition that Humans have when it comes to exerting strength. Their brains are primed for generating extreme exertions of strength.

  - Their adrenaline levels reach several times that of Humans when they are enraged, and adrenaline increases mobilization of muscle fibers. Even without adrenaline, though, they can exert 5 X the strength of a Human elite powerlifter and 10 X the power(strength X speed)

  - Their bones are 10 X denser, which means that hoisting huge weights is less strssful for them than for Humans. A gorilla's wrist is so thick and dense that it can hoist 800 lbs, the same weight that takes a Human's entire skeleton to hoist.

  - Gorilla strength has nothing to do with testosterone levels. Their testosterone levels are actually lower than Humans, since they are less sexually competitive and promiscuous than Humans.

  It is important to point out that gorilla's strength advantage is mostly for pulling and bending, at which they are, according to the Discovery Channel, 20+ times superior to the average man. Most of their muscle mass in on the back and arms and not on the legs and chest as well as higher proportion of fast twitch type II muscle fibers, and their muscle attachments are designed to maximize the power of the back muscles and of the arms for pulling. At pushing, they are still much stronger than Humans but not crushingly so, because their absolute muscle mass, type of muscle fiber and tendon thickness garantees much greater strength even though their muscles do not enjoy better leverage than ours for pushing. For pushing a gorilla is probably only about 5 times stronger than an average men - which is still huge. In fact, on the bench press, a gorilla probably can't bench as much as Human bench champion because, besides their muscle being at a disadvantage for pushing, they have long arms which makes the amount of force required to move a weight in the bench press greater.....

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2011, 03:14:01 PM »
LOL, how you know so much about gorillas, "sucky" ?

Why someone don't take a gorilla, shave it and ask a special invitation to Olympia? Would be sure success  ;D

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2011, 03:29:24 PM »
Wouldn't it be cool if someone could train a gorilla to do a deadlift?

Actually I've just thought about it - gorillas arms would practically reach the floor even upright and so they wouldn't be able to pull that far so their range of motion although powerful would be incredibly limited - you'd have to get them to stand on a reinforced platform or something just so their leverage would be the same as humans.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2011, 03:30:22 PM »
LOL, how you know so much about gorillas, "sucky" ?

Why someone don't take a gorilla, shave it and ask a special invitation to Olympia? Would be sure success  ;D

  Yeah, that would be taking it to the next level. 600 lbs with abs... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2011, 10:30:33 PM »
  How did I miss this thread? Gorillas are vastly stronger than Humans for several reasons:

  - Their muscles are much larger in absolute terms.

  - They have a much higher proportion of fast-twitch, type II muscle fibers, especially on their back muscles and arms.

  - Their muscles process lactic acid much faster and more efficiently than Humans.

  - Their muscles attach in the tendons in positions that maximize leverage, especially for pulling, whilts Human muscles attach to the bones in positions that maximize fine motor coordination. As a consequence, Humans can touch the center of their palms with their thumbs, which gorillas can't. Humans can write with a pen, whilst gorillas, even if they had the intelligence to learn how to write, would never be able to due to lack of ability to control the fingers with the precision that Humans can.

  - Their tendons are four times thicker and several times denser than Humans, which allows them to hoist much bigger weights than Humans. An elite Human bencher can bench 750 lbs raw; a gorilla can hoist that weight with a single arm whilst using the other to hold itself to a tree branch, and then lift the weight to it's face. A strength that is several leagues above Human level.

  - Gorillas lack the strong neurological inhibition that Humans have when it comes to exerting strength. Their brains are primed for generating extreme exertions of strength.

  - Their adrenaline levels reach several times that of Humans when they are enraged, and adrenaline increases mobilization of muscle fibers. Even without adrenaline, though, they can exert 5 X the strength of a Human elite powerlifter and 10 X the power(strength X speed)

  - Their bones are 10 X denser, which means that hoisting huge weights is less strssful for them than for Humans. A gorilla's wrist is so thick and dense that it can hoist 800 lbs, the same weight that takes a Human's entire skeleton to hoist.

  - Gorilla strength has nothing to do with testosterone levels. Their testosterone levels are actually lower than Humans, since they are less sexually competitive and promiscuous than Humans.

  It is important to point out that gorilla's strength advantage is mostly for pulling and bending, at which they are, according to the Discovery Channel, 20+ times superior to the average man. Most of their muscle mass in on the back and arms and not on the legs and chest as well as higher proportion of fast twitch type II muscle fibers, and their muscle attachments are designed to maximize the power of the back muscles and of the arms for pulling. At pushing, they are still much stronger than Humans but not crushingly so, because their absolute muscle mass, type of muscle fiber and tendon thickness garantees much greater strength even though their muscles do not enjoy better leverage than ours for pushing. For pushing a gorilla is probably only about 5 times stronger than an average men - which is still huge. In fact, on the bench press, a gorilla probably can't bench as much as Human bench champion because, besides their muscle being at a disadvantage for pushing, they have long arms which makes the amount of force required to move a weight in the bench press greater.....

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Holy Shit - If this is for real, what a great response.  Amazing that a gorilla actually has lower test than a human.  I can't find anything that says otherwise, so I'll definitely take your word with the rest of the post. 

Thanks, SMM.  Great stuff.


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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2011, 04:31:51 AM »
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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2011, 10:47:25 AM »
LOL, how you know so much about gorillas, "sucky" ?

Why someone don't take a gorilla, shave it and ask a special invitation to Olympia? Would be sure success  ;D

google.com, search

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2011, 10:54:17 AM »
google.com, search

  Translation:

  "Everyone who knows more than I do doesen't mean anything anyway because they just used search engines to find the information."

  You are a jealous, spiteful bitch. Your argument is redundant because knowledge has always been available to everyone before the internet even existed - encyclopedias, etc. So what are you trying to prove? That people who know mroe than you do are not really smarter than you? Here's a newsflash for you: knowledge does correlate strongly with general intelligence, so all those people who make you feel inferior for knowing more than you do(such as myself) truly are smarter than you. :D

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2011, 10:59:38 AM »
what he means is that the internet/cable revolution has made it easy for internet fantasists of limited means (like you) to act like they know something.

  Translation:

  "Everyone who knows more than I do doesen't mean anything anyway because they just used search engines to find the information."

  You are a jealous, spiteful bitch. Your argument is redundant because knowledge has always been available to everyone before the internet even existed - encyclopedias, etc. So what are you trying to prove? That people who know mroe than you do are not really smarter than you? Here's a newsflash for you: knowledge does correlate strongly with general intelligence, so all those people who make you feel inferior for knowing more than you do(such as myself) truly are smarter than you. :D

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2011, 11:14:12 AM »
what he means is that the internet/cable revolution has made it easy for internet fantasists of limited means (like you) to act like they know something.


  Sure, "Clown". Because before the internet we didn't have encyclopedias and other means of acquiring information. The entire knowledge of Mankind is available online, dumbass. Going by your logic, a mathematician with a PhD who writes on an internet board about say, non-linear Lobashevsky geometry, deep down knows nothing because everything he just wrote can be found online. You can accuse him of just copying&pasting everything he wrote from google as well. You are a moron. No, you truly are.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2011, 11:16:52 AM »
anybody who knows anything about anything wouldn't come off sounding like an idiot/SUCKMYMUSCLE.  A crazy internet fantasist would sound like you though... Hope this helps.  :)

  Sure, "Clown". Because before the internet we didn't have encyclopedias and other means of acquiring information. The entire knowledge of Mankind is available online, dumbass. Going by your logic, a mathematician with a PhD who writes on an internet board about say, non-linear Lobashevsky geometry, deep down knows nothing because everything he just wrote can be found online. You can accuse him of just copying&pasting everything he wrote from google as well. You are a moron. No, you truly are.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2011, 11:27:25 AM »
 How did I miss this thread? Gorillas are vastly stronger than Humans for several reasons:

  - Their muscles are much larger in absolute terms.

  - They have a much higher proportion of fast-twitch, type II muscle fibers, especially on their back muscles and arms.

  - Their muscles process lactic acid much faster and more efficiently than Humans.

  - Their muscles attach in the tendons in positions that maximize leverage, especially for pulling, whilts Human muscles attach to the bones in positions that maximize fine motor coordination. As a consequence, Humans can touch the center of their palms with their thumbs, which gorillas can't. Humans can write with a pen, whilst gorillas, even if they had the intelligence to learn how to write, would never be able to due to lack of ability to control the fingers with the precision that Humans can.

  - Their tendons are four times thicker and several times denser than Humans, which allows them to hoist much bigger weights than Humans. An elite Human bencher can bench 750 lbs raw; a gorilla can hoist that weight with a single arm whilst using the other to hold itself to a tree branch, and then lift the weight to it's face. A strength that is several leagues above Human level.

  - Gorillas lack the strong neurological inhibition that Humans have when it comes to exerting strength. Their brains are primed for generating extreme exertions of strength.

  - Their adrenaline levels reach several times that of Humans when they are enraged, and adrenaline increases mobilization of muscle fibers. Even without adrenaline, though, they can exert 5 X the strength of a Human elite powerlifter and 10 X the power(strength X speed)

  - Their bones are 10 X denser, which means that hoisting huge weights is less strssful for them than for Humans. A gorilla's wrist is so thick and dense that it can hoist 800 lbs, the same weight that takes a Human's entire skeleton to hoist.

  - Gorilla strength has nothing to do with testosterone levels. Their testosterone levels are actually lower than Humans, since they are less sexually competitive and promiscuous than Humans.

  It is important to point out that gorilla's strength advantage is mostly for pulling and bending, at which they are, according to the Discovery Channel, 20+ times superior to the average man. Most of their muscle mass in on the back and arms and not on the legs and chest as well as higher proportion of fast twitch type II muscle fibers, and their muscle attachments are designed to maximize the power of the back muscles and of the arms for pulling. At pushing, they are still much stronger than Humans but not crushingly so, because their absolute muscle mass, type of muscle fiber and tendon thickness garantees much greater strength even though their muscles do not enjoy better leverage than ours for pushing. For pushing a gorilla is probably only about 5 times stronger than an average men - which is still huge. In fact, on the bench press, a gorilla probably can't bench as much as Human bench champion because, besides their muscle being at a disadvantage for pushing, they have long arms which makes the amount of force required to move a weight in the bench press greater.....

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what if a young boy could be safely raised by gorillas.  Do you think he would be super strong seeing how he would have to keep up with his family
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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2011, 11:44:12 AM »
Take a look at this Gaur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaur, which is bigger than the extinct Aurochs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs of Europe. How did it get so big and muscular from only grazing? And the fact that it is a undulate, which means it must regurgitate it's food and chew it again...letting it's 4 part stomach do the deed...The spend all day grazing---as veg. matter is poor in protein content.




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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2011, 11:46:28 AM »

hahahaha....that Cow is definitely top 6 material

I wonder if people realize that that hump on that "cow" is probably seven feet from the ground.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2011, 11:49:53 AM »
I wonder if people realize that that hump on that "cow" is probably seven feet from the ground.
Not true  I raise Belgian blues and they are about 5 1/2 fet at the shoulders
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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2011, 11:54:19 AM »
Not true  I raise Belgian blues and they are about 5 1/2 fet at the shoulders

that's no belgian blue in that picture.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2011, 11:55:09 AM »
you would think someone who raised belgian blues would know that........

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2011, 12:29:39 PM »
I'm more into the Dutch blues. Makes me cry.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2011, 01:57:53 PM »
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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #45 on: March 17, 2014, 11:42:11 AM »
 How did I miss this thread? Gorillas are vastly stronger than Humans for several reasons:

  - Their muscles are much larger in absolute terms.

  - They have a much higher proportion of fast-twitch, type II muscle fibers, especially on their back muscles and arms.

  - Their muscles process lactic acid much faster and more efficiently than Humans.

  - Their muscles attach in the tendons in positions that maximize leverage, especially for pulling, whilts Human muscles attach to the bones in positions that maximize fine motor coordination. As a consequence, Humans can touch the center of their palms with their thumbs, which gorillas can't. Humans can write with a pen, whilst gorillas, even if they had the intelligence to learn how to write, would never be able to due to lack of ability to control the fingers with the precision that Humans can.

  - Their tendons are four times thicker and several times denser than Humans, which allows them to hoist much bigger weights than Humans. An elite Human bencher can bench 750 lbs raw; a gorilla can hoist that weight with a single arm whilst using the other to hold itself to a tree branch, and then lift the weight to it's face. A strength that is several leagues above Human level.

  - Gorillas lack the strong neurological inhibition that Humans have when it comes to exerting strength. Their brains are primed for generating extreme exertions of strength.

  - Their adrenaline levels reach several times that of Humans when they are enraged, and adrenaline increases mobilization of muscle fibers. Even without adrenaline, though, they can exert 5 X the strength of a Human elite powerlifter and 10 X the power(strength X speed)

  - Their bones are 10 X denser, which means that hoisting huge weights is less strssful for them than for Humans. A gorilla's wrist is so thick and dense that it can hoist 800 lbs, the same weight that takes a Human's entire skeleton to hoist.

  - Gorilla strength has nothing to do with testosterone levels. Their testosterone levels are actually lower than Humans, since they are less sexually competitive and promiscuous than Humans.

  It is important to point out that gorilla's strength advantage is mostly for pulling and bending, at which they are, according to the Discovery Channel, 20+ times superior to the average man. Most of their muscle mass in on the back and arms and not on the legs and chest as well as higher proportion of fast twitch type II muscle fibers, and their muscle attachments are designed to maximize the power of the back muscles and of the arms for pulling. At pushing, they are still much stronger than Humans but not crushingly so, because their absolute muscle mass, type of muscle fiber and tendon thickness garantees much greater strength even though their muscles do not enjoy better leverage than ours for pushing. For pushing a gorilla is probably only about 5 times stronger than an average men - which is still huge. In fact, on the bench press, a gorilla probably can't bench as much as Human bench champion because, besides their muscle being at a disadvantage for pushing, they have long arms which makes the amount of force required to move a weight in the bench press greater.....

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #46 on: March 17, 2014, 01:15:11 PM »
no... your so fucking stupid you asked the dumbass question to begin with. 

translation: I'm too fucking stupid to answer the question.

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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #47 on: March 17, 2014, 01:17:00 PM »
your so fucking stupid


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Re: Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)
« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2014, 01:29:54 PM »
Suck was a great poster