Gorilla question (bodybuilding related)

[Jack T. Cross]

Besides tendon placement and other structural differences, is a gorilla so powerful (versus a man) due to the much larger amount of testosterone he has?

[mass243]

Are you planning to suck sum' of gorilla test straight from the pipe                     

[Jack T. Cross]

Are you planning to suck sum' of gorilla test straight from the pipe                     

translation: I'm too fucking stupid to answer the question.

[Roger Bacon]

translation: I'm too fucking stupid to answer the question.

I don't think so, you could give a human all the test in the world and we're just not the same as a gorilla genetically.

They turn all this vegetation and shit they eat into muscle... That's not happening with humans....

[Deicide]

Besides tendon placement and other structural differences, is a gorilla so powerful (versus a man) due to the much larger amount of testosterone he has?

Simplest answer: different spieces.

Gorillas have never been observed to eat meat (unlike chimps) so it is just a wonder of evolution.

[HTexan]

Epic replying to your own post and forgetting to log out of your gay ass gimmick.

[Jack T. Cross]

Epic replying to your own post and forgetting to log out of your gay ass gimmick.

 

[Jack T. Cross]

I don't think so, you could give a human all the test in the world and we're just not the same as a gorilla genetically.

They turn all this vegetation and shit they eat into muscle... That's not happening with humans....

Yes, this is what I was thinking.  The fact that they're basically vegetarian makes it even weirder.

[Jack T. Cross]

Simplest answer: different spieces.

Gorillas have never been observed to eat meat (unlike chimps) so it is just a wonder of evolution.

I think they've coaxed some captive gorillas to eat meat, but I get what you're saying.  A "wonder of evolution" about sums it up.

[w8m8]

Yes, this is what I was thinking.  The fact that they're basically vegetarian makes it even weirder.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Wild-Animals-705/Primate-strength.htm

The first thing to bear in mind is that there a vegetarian diet contains all the basic components of a meat diet, apart from a few nutrients, such as vitamin B12 and folate. This means that an ape can build up the same muscles and strength from a vegetarian diet as from a meat one. I have not read anywhere that chimpanzees, or humans, with a mainly vegetarian diet are any weaker than those with a meat diet. The main difference is that meat is generally easier to break down than vegetation and that meat eaters need to spend less time feeding than vegetarians, but if the apes are relatively safe, spending a few hours feeding and digesting food, rather than hunting or resting, need not afect the accumulation of muscle tissue.

The other thing to consider is that it can take less time for a vegetarian to find food. For example a leaf eater in a tree doesn't have to go far to find food, assuming that it is able to digest the leaves of the tree it is in (and it would be a poorly adapted leaf eater to inhabit trees when it couldn't process the leaves). A meat eater may use up a lot of energy obtaining food. It seems that most of the hunts of a big cat are unsuccessful, so that means a lot of energy being used before it can be replaced from food. Cheetahs, for example, may use up a lot of energy in unsucessful hunts and, when they are successful, may have their fiood stolen from them. In order to build up muscles and strength, the energy obtained from food must exceed the energy expended on obtaining that food. It doesn't seem that a vegetarian diet has adversely affected the strength of apes.

The other thing to consider is where the muscles are concentrated. Chimpanzees, gorillas and orang-utans have very strong arms and relatively weak legs. Compared to humans, anthropoid apes are top heavy and use their arms to support their weight when moving. Humans concentrate more of their muscle weight in their legs and so, compared to anthropoid apes, have relatively weak arms. When scientists talk about the strength of apes, they are really referring to the strong arms and the well-developed chests, compared to humans. Jim Kakalios says that the arms of apes are developed for specific tasks, many of which involve strength, while human hands are developed for a wider range of skills as humans do not use their hands when walking.

I don't know if anyone has compared the legs, but I guess that humans have stronger leg muscles than the anthropoid apes, which have stockier legs, with the muscles concentrated in a smaller area. A human could still support his or her body weight with one foot on the ground and both arms in the air, while kicking out at an opponent. If an anthropoid ape tried to do this, I think it would stand a great risk of falling over. If this is so, I think that humans would probably be better at kick boxing and similar sports than anthropoid apes

[Jadeveon Clowney]

translation: I'm too fucking stupid to answer the question.

lol.

[maxkane69]

Besides tendon placement and other structural differences, is a gorilla so powerful (versus a man) due to the much larger amount of testosterone he has?

Considering the gorilla resemblance to current bodybuilders I think that might be due larger amount of growth hormone rather than testosterone!

[mass243]

lol.

 

[Jadeveon Clowney]

Admit it, you loled a little too.

[mass243]

Admit it, you loled a little too.

Oh, fuk it... I did 

[Jack T. Cross]

Considering the gorilla resemblance to current bodybuilders I think that might be due larger amount of growth hormone rather than testosterone!

Seriously, good point...and maybe some insulona?

[Jack T. Cross]

Admit it, you loled a little too.

  I'd forgotten about that.  Now I just shamelessly lol'ed at myself.

Sorry, mass243.  I was so perplexed at my own question it was making me angry. 

[Jack T. Cross]

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Wild-Animals-705/Primate-strength.htm

The first thing to bear in mind is that there a vegetarian diet contains all the basic components of a meat diet, apart from a few nutrients, such as vitamin B12 and folate. This means that an ape can build up the same muscles and strength from a vegetarian diet as from a meat one. I have not read anywhere that chimpanzees, or humans, with a mainly vegetarian diet are any weaker than those with a meat diet.

This is a good one.  Maybe with people that don't use weight, I suppose the differences may not be much.  Never really though about it, but now it makes me wonder.    

With people who train, though, there must be a difference.  Say with twins or whatever, all other things equal, wouldn't the meat eater be far more progressed?  Fuck, for all I know it's been a myth.  Funny how something so basic could remain unclear.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Wild-Animals-705/Primate-strength.htm

The other thing to consider is that it can take less time for a vegetarian to find food. For example a leaf eater in a tree doesn't have to go far to find food, assuming that it is able to digest the leaves of the tree it is in (and it would be a poorly adapted leaf eater to inhabit trees when it couldn't process the leaves).

This is another thing that gets me.  With gorillas, it's all about vegetation etc. and not even bean protein.  How in the hell does a gorilla or any other "leaf eater" get the amino acids needed for muscle?
 

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Wild-Animals-705/Primate-strength.htm

A meat eater may use up a lot of energy obtaining food. It seems that most of the hunts of a big cat are unsuccessful, so that means a lot of energy being used before it can be replaced from food. Cheetahs, for example, may use up a lot of energy in unsucessful hunts and, when they are successful, may have their fiood stolen from them. In order to build up muscles and strength, the energy obtained from food must exceed the energy expended on obtaining that food.

This is going to play a big part in it. No doubt about it.

[BILL ANVIL]

A 5'9" 450lb Silverback is stronger than an average 160lb man why you ask 

[Jack T. Cross]

A 5'9" 450lb Silverback is stronger than an average 160lb man why you ask 

"Stronger" is an understatement, for one thing.  And he's also freakishly stronger than a 350lbs powerlifter, etc.  Among other things, I'm asking about the role of testosterone in this.

[BIG_STI]

1 male Gorilla = strength of 6 men

[Parker]

Are you planning to suck sum' of gorilla test straight from the pipe                    

unfortunately, very hard to find the pipe---that's why gorillas always look so damn mad!

As far as the op question, look it up...gorillas have diff genetic makeup, diff skeletons and yes diff test levels.  Also their mayostatin inhibitors maybe diff as well, letting  them be more  muscular. Like the Belguim Blue Cattle.   Plus, i believe that they have to consume ALOT of veg. matter to truly feed their systems, just like a elephant has to feed a lot...If you look at the largest animals in the world, they feed on the most benign...Blue Whales feed on plankton...

[Jack T. Cross]

1 male Gorilla = strength of 6 men

Incredible. And you're talking about men - not "men".

[Jack T. Cross]

unfortunately, very hard to find the pipe---that's why gorillas always look so damn mad!

As far as the op question, look it up...gorillas have diff genetic makeup, diff skeletons and yes diff test levels.  Also their maostatin inhibitors maybe diff as well, letting  them be more  muscular. Like the Belguim Blue Cattle.   Plus, i believe that they have to consume ALOT of veg. matter to truly feed their systems, just like a elephant has to feed a lot...If you look at the largest animals in the world, they feed on the most benign...Blue Whales feed on plankton...

There you go.  

[Parker]

There you go.

Take a look at this Gaur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaur, which is bigger than the extinct Aurochs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurochs of Europe. How did it get so big and muscular from only grazing? And the fact that it is a undulate, which means it must regurgitate it's food and chew it again...letting it's 4 part stomach do the deed...The spend all day grazing---as veg. matter is poor in protein content.