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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #50 on: April 07, 2015, 12:22:46 PM »
what is known as the sea org (organization) are the ones who wear the ridiculous navy looking attire when they are "official working business" it's their work attire.. they are also the ones who sign the infamous BILLION year contract to stay in, to work for scientology. a billion years? well that's nothing when they believe they are immortal beings, this is just 1 lifetime and 1 body and then will come back in a different body over and over and over again..

oh, and this sea org (the really dedicated and really nutty over the regular nutty scientologists) was created by hubbard who fancied himself a sea/ocean explorer/captain (because he was in world war 2 and decorated with medals and honors captain! uh, the truth was he was relieved of any and all duties because he was a failure accidentally firing on something i forget the story. it was also this time where hubbard (BIGGEST PATHOLOGICAL LAIR AND B.S'ER) claimed he left the service not only with honors and medals but because of various "war" injuries. which also in documented proof was a lie as well.. he claimed various injuries including for a short period blindness and that only his "internal" in depth study of the mind and body that ONLY He discovered (the beginning of his book dianetics, which  then led to scientology) he basically cured himself of any and all injuries.. documents show he had no injuries, certainly not any partial or temporary blindness!....

anyways, for years hubbard made his "base" on this big ole yacht sailing around the world exploring and looking for ways to help mankind and all the members who were on there with him, helping him, became the original sea org members and now it has stucked years and years later, although now of course they are on dry land. the truth is he was on the run from the f.b.i, the i.r.s. and gosh knows who else and that is why he was on the seas/oceans trying to hide from them in international waters!....

watch videos of hubbard on youtube. com and ask yourself how could anyone then or now listen and worship this utter fraud and weirdo insane creepy person...

i watched another documentary on Scientology last night and it explained better y so many of them wear the naval uniforms...thanx

and ya in Going Clear they talk about Hubbards navy "career" and what a joke he was. Quite comical actually how bad he was
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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2015, 12:23:44 PM »
Here we go...Jesus didn't exist and everything in the bible is fabrication.  ::)
What next, Buddha didn't exist?

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« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2015, 12:50:27 PM »
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Not EVERYTHING in the bible is fabrication... a good bit of it is though

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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2015, 12:52:27 PM »
LOL



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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2015, 12:58:16 PM »
Religion makes people irrational and nutty. Look at Tbombz.
What seemingly made Tbombz is a combination of food, genetics, family dynamics, and that faithful forth night where another young lad decided to take advantage of Thombz innocence and naïveté. A recipe for a slow ticking T bomb....candidate-2025 never made it to the podium...yet.

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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2015, 05:50:43 PM »
It's a cult and she is probably dead, murdered by her husband.

Shelly Miscavige was confirmed to be still alive by police a couple of months ago I believe. Shelly's disappearance over the past 8 years was questioned multiple times by Leah Remini who was basically told to STFU and not rock the boat by higher ups in the cult.  This was one of the primary reasons Remini left scientology for good shortly before her appearing on DWTS last year.

I was surprised Shelly's disappearance was not addressed in Going Clear.  Reports claim that HBO had 166 different lawyers review the documentary before it went public.  Perhaps they were advised to leave this and several other well known scandals on the cutting room floor to avoid litigation.

David Miscavige is clearly a Napoleonic deranged little runt.

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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2015, 11:43:17 AM »
well ALLEGEDY the LAPD confirmed she's alive and well.. what i mean is, the matter was "investigated" and taken care of in like 1 day or so? calling the missing person claim "unfounded".
 the LAPD basically said that just that they talked to her and she was okay? no other details were given? did they talk to her in person? if so, where and when? for how long? did they ask her about her condition and state of mind? did they ask her why she hasn't been seen in years in public? did they take photos of her/videotape her to get a statement? and lastly, how do they KNOW it WAS HER?

all viable questions that were never asked and never detailed by the LAPD in this matter...

and just to let you all know? the man who was in CHARGE of the investigation?...he "shills" for the cult on his off time actually giving community speeches and being scientology sponsored.. NICE!...

also a point could be made that EVEN if she is alive and well, like i posted earlier, why does she (it's her decision)  NEVER EVER EVER is seen in public? when she is the wife of a quote "religious" leader who was for years and years seen anywhere and everywhere and suddenly BAM! nowhere...not once supporting her husband, their faith, at any event or function, no matter how big or important? and the husband, doesn't remotely think it's common sense and simple basic P.R. to show her not only to the public, but even to the fellow members inside this "faith"?... fishier then fish sticks!!

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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2015, 05:56:09 PM »
well ALLEGEDY the LAPD confirmed she's alive and well.. what i mean is, the matter was "investigated" and taken care of in like 1 day or so? calling the missing person claim "unfounded".
 the LAPD basically said that just that they talked to her and she was okay? no other details were given? did they talk to her in person? if so, where and when? for how long? did they ask her about her condition and state of mind? did they ask her why she hasn't been seen in years in public? did they take photos of her/videotape her to get a statement? and lastly, how do they KNOW it WAS HER?

all viable questions that were never asked and never detailed by the LAPD in this matter...

and just to let you all know? the man who was in CHARGE of the investigation?...he "shills" for the cult on his off time actually giving community speeches and being scientology sponsored.. NICE!...

also a point could be made that EVEN if she is alive and well, like i posted earlier, why does she (it's her decision)  NEVER EVER EVER is seen in public? when she is the wife of a quote "religious" leader who was for years and years seen anywhere and everywhere and suddenly BAM! nowhere...not once supporting her husband, their faith, at any event or function, no matter how big or important? and the husband, doesn't remotely think it's common sense and simple basic P.R. to show her not only to the public, but even to the fellow members inside this "faith"?... fishier then fish sticks!!

Yes it reeks and your questions are all relevant.

Nothing surprises me any longer regarding this cult.  The power they seem to hold over their adherents is beyond belief. 

I put nothing past megalomaniac Miscavige.  Scientology is disintegrating which will drive him to even more extreme behavior.  Multiple reports claim he and his wife slept in separate bedrooms and were never once observed showing any kind of affection.  He isn't driven by pussy, he is driven by power and ego over all else.

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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2015, 06:03:37 PM »
true sign its a cult................

when u do your auditing(main purpose of Scientology) they video tape, record and keep files of it all. They ask you to tell them your darkest and most personal secrets...and keeep a complete record of it. WTF. The only reason to do this obviously is to hold it over you if they feel the need.
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« Reply #59 on: April 09, 2015, 06:16:25 AM »
and how screwed up in the head  do you have to be ESPECIALLY IF YOUR A CELEB!!!!! to sit across from some auditor and be ASKED! extremely intimate questions by a RELIGION! including about your sex life (acts, thoughts, fantasies, etcetera) and see them writing your answers down (and secretly videotaping you as well if the stories told are true?!) and keeping what you said in a quote "permanent file" (and for what purpose?)....

"oh, i feel so much better telling this auditor (and my religion) my sexual perversions and acts, it's a relief, just like therapy, i feel so much better!'

ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME! ANYONE AND I MEAN ANYONE with half a ounce of self respect, awareness and intelligence would be UTTERLY FREAKED OUT AND WEIRDED OUT AND PISSED that they were even BEING ASKED SUCH QUESTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE AND BY A "RELIGION?"!!! and then to see them writing down what you say?! and keeping it?! anyone you would think would get up and run out of the scientology building it would bring up dust! and to think famous celebs have done this countless times? it truly defies all common sense and believability!!!!

makes me think if they were that dumb, stupid and gullible "it's a religion, my religion they would never do anything to harm me, much less blackmail me or leak what i say to anyone!" to do this, then they DESERVE WHAT THEY GET!..i mean  don't you think anyone especially if your a famous celeb you would DIE OF EMBARASSMENT sitting across from some "auditor" whose not a friend, not a loved one, not a family member and telling them face to face your sex life?!!

OH BY THE WAY, THIS JUST IN: the leader of this cult, i mean religion has just been accused of spying on his own father! it's everywhere this news... course the cult will say "it's all lies, like everything and everyone is!"..

the thing is: what does it say when the father and mother of the LEADER of this "religion" leaves it? not to mention the niece of the leader leaving it and writes a book and speaks out against it!...

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Re: Going Clear - Scientology
« Reply #60 on: April 09, 2015, 06:54:04 AM »
and how screwed up in the head  do you have to be ESPECIALLY IF YOUR A CELEB!!!!! to sit across from some auditor and be ASKED! extremely intimate questions by a RELIGION! including about your sex life (acts, thoughts, fantasies, etcetera) and see them writing your answers down (and secretly videotaping you as well if the stories told are true?!) and keeping what you said in a quote "permanent file" (and for what purpose?)....

"oh, i feel so much better telling this auditor (and my religion) my sexual perversions and acts, it's a relief, just like therapy, i feel so much better!'

ARE YOU FRICKING KIDDING ME! ANYONE AND I MEAN ANYONE with half a ounce of self respect, awareness and intelligence would be UTTERLY FREAKED OUT AND WEIRDED OUT AND PISSED that they were even BEING ASKED SUCH QUESTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE AND BY A "RELIGION?"!!! and then to see them writing down what you say?! and keeping it?! anyone you would think would get up and run out of the scientology building it would bring up dust! and to think famous celebs have done this countless times? it truly defies all common sense and believability!!!!

makes me think if they were that dumb, stupid and gullible "it's a religion, my religion they would never do anything to harm me, much less blackmail me or leak what i say to anyone!" to do this, then they DESERVE WHAT THEY GET!..i mean  don't you think anyone especially if your a famous celeb you would DIE OF EMBARASSMENT sitting across from some "auditor" whose not a friend, not a loved one, not a family member and telling them face to face your sex life?!!

OH BY THE WAY, THIS JUST IN: the leader of this cult, i mean religion has just been accused of spying on his own father! it's everywhere this news... course the cult will say "it's all lies, like everything and everyone is!"..

the thing is: what does it say when the father and mother of the LEADER of this "religion" leaves it? not to mention the niece of the leader leaving it and writes a book and speaks out against it!...

You never know a person's motives and the background story. I think a "celebrity", aka servant to help control the public, has ample access to goods an average citizens considers life long goals - for example wealth, beautiful living, etc.
So when you have things that others aspire to have, all their life for the most part, your belief system and priorities change... where's the dangling carrot for the privileged?
Enter eternal life, super powers, space origins, being part of a secret elite, etc.
Add to that the need for control and you have the perfect breeding ground for such cults and their followers.
I think many celebrities are just like the guy/girl next door - gullible, curious and uninformed.
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